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FinOps after the low hanging fruits

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by Frank Contrepois

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What happens when all the low-hanging fruits are already in the basket? You have cleaned up the obvious waste. You have rightsized what could be rightsized. You have bought the discounts. You have built the dashboards. Everyone agrees that cloud cost matters. And then the real work begins. FinOps After the Low-Hanging Fruits is a video podcast about the harder side of FinOps: communication, diplomacy, negotiation, policy design, forecasting, organisational tension, and strategic thinking. The things that appear once the easy savings are gone. The official documentation can make it look simple. In practice, it rarely is. It is a bit like my son watching a few skateboarding videos and deciding he was good at it. The theory was clear. The confidence was high. Then came the concrete. FinOps is similar. Reading about forecasting, governance, capabilities, or collaboration is one thing. Making them work across finance, engineering, product, architecture, procurement, and leadership is something else entirely. This podcast is for FinOps practitioners who are past the basic cost-cutting phase and now need to make FinOps useful, credible, and strategic inside the business. We will talk about what happens after the first wins. When the dashboards are not enough. When the answer is no longer technical. And when FinOps has to become part of how the business makes decisions.

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Episode thumbnail for The AI Trust Matrix: How to Safely Delegate Tasks in FinOps

July 17, 2026

The AI Trust Matrix: How to Safely Delegate Tasks in FinOps

<p>The conversation explores the delegation of tasks to AI in FinOps and introduces the concept of a trust matrix for AI and FinOps. Frank discusses the criteria for delegating tasks to AI based on verifiability and stakes, and introduces a tool available on finops.frankcontrepois.com for further analysis and adaptation.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Delegating tasks to AI in FinOps</li><li>Trust matrix for AI and FinOps</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Delegating Tasks to AI in FinOps</li><li>01:10 The Trust Matrix for AI and FinOps</li></ul>

Episode thumbnail for Interview - The research says that the real job of a FinOps practitioner isn’t FinOps

July 13, 2026

Interview - The research says that the real job of a FinOps practitioner isn’t FinOps

<p><strong>From Actor to FinOps Researcher: Insights from 21 Practitioners on the Human Side of FinOps</strong></p><p>What makes a great FinOps practitioner?</p><p>In the first episode of FinOps After the Low-Hanging Fruits, Frank Contrepois talks to Olivier, a recent University of Manchester graduate. His research focused on the human side of FinOps, interviewing <strong>21 practitioners from Europe, North America, and Asia</strong>.</p><p>Instead of diving into cloud tech or cost-saving methods, they discuss the people in FinOps. They explore how backgrounds shape decisions, why organisations adopt FinOps differently, and what newcomers can learn from experienced professionals.</p><p>Key topics include:</p><ul><li>Why FinOps is a <strong>human and behavioural discipline</strong>, not just technical.</li><li>Insights from interviews with practitioners across various industries.</li><li>How backgrounds in engineering, finance, leadership, and consulting influence approaches to FinOps.</li><li>The emergence of a second generation of FinOps professionals.</li><li>The challenge of balancing frameworks with the unique ways organisations implement FinOps.</li><li>The role of practitioners as <strong>translators</strong> between engineering, finance, procurement, and leadership.</li><li>Why building connections between teams is often more important than deep technical expertise.</li><li>How organisations can shift from centralised FinOps teams to a true FinOps culture.</li><li>The significance of incentives, behaviours, and communication over tools and dashboards.</li><li>Mental models that help navigate complexity, including:<ul><li>Context is everything</li><li>Flip the coin</li><li>FinOps as translation</li><li>FinOps as behaviour</li></ul></li><li>Why top practitioners know when to listen and recognise when someone truly understands.</li></ul><p>This episode examines what comes after obvious cloud savings. Success depends more on communication, culture, organisational design, and helping people make better choices.</p><p>If you've ever questioned whether FinOps is just about cloud costs or about changing organisational mindsets, you'll find this conversation enlightening.</p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Oliver Kennett <strong>Host:</strong> Frank Contrepois FinOps After the Low-Hanging Fruits is a podcast that delves into the tougher aspects of FinOps: governance, communication, leadership, organisational behaviour, forecasting, negotiation, and the strategic challenges that arise when easy savings are already achieved.</p><p><br /></p>

Episode thumbnail for Short - FinOps and vibecoding - how to make it work

July 6, 2026

Short - FinOps and vibecoding - how to make it work

<p>Vibe Coding is upon us, and we need to build some governance to avoid creating thousands of duplicates. </p>

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What is FinOps after the low hanging fruits?

What happens when all the low-hanging fruits are already in the basket?

You have cleaned up the obvious waste. You have rightsized what could be rightsized. You have bought the discounts. You have built the dashboards. Everyone agrees that cloud cost matters.

And then the real work begins.

FinOps After the Low-Hanging Fruits is a video podcast about the harder side of FinOps: communication, diplomacy, negotiation, policy design, forecasting, organisational tension, and strategic thinking.

The things that appear once the easy savings are gone.

The official documentation can make it look simple. In practice, it rarely is.

It is a bit like my son watching a few skateboarding videos and deciding he was good at it. The theory was clear. The confidence was high.

Then came the concrete.

FinOps is similar.

Reading about forecasting, governance, capabilities, or collaboration is one thing. Making them work across finance, engineering, product, architecture, procurement, and leadership is something else entirely.

This podcast is for FinOps practitioners who are past the basic cost-cutting phase and now need to make FinOps useful, credible, and strategic inside the business.

We will talk about what happens after the first wins. When the dashboards are not enough. When the answer is no longer technical. And when FinOps has to become part of how the business makes decisions.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

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