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It’s Not All Billable

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Podcast Overview

Hosted by Jonathan Bench and Kato Aerts, It’s Not All Billable takes listeners inside the lives of lawyers practicing across borders. Each episode explores how legal professionals navigate work-life balance within diverse cultural and legal environments. With insights on corporate and employment law developments from around the world, the show offers a global perspective on the practice of law, and what it means to build a career beyond the billable hour.

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1/28/2026

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April 29, 2026

Life with a Lawyer – Balance, Sacrifice, and Support at Home

<p>In this special episode of It’s Not All Billable, Jonathan and Kato invite their spouses, Mary Ann and Jean-Paul, to join the conversation for an honest look at what it’s really like to be married to a lawyer. Together, they reflect on law school, career ambitions, family life, and the ways legal work shapes relationships at home. The discussion explores the blessings and challenges of flexibility, travel, communication, and raising children while building demanding careers. With humor, candor, and a lot of affection, this episode offers a personal perspective on partnership, sacrifice, and finding balance beyond the billable hour.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Mentorship and Networking – Finding Guidance and Becoming It

April 15, 2026

Mentorship and Networking – Finding Guidance and Becoming It

<p>In this episode, hosts Jonathan Bench and Kato Aerts explore the value of mentorship and the role networking plays in finding the right people to guide your growth. Drawing from personal stories, they reflect on early career uncertainty, the mentors who helped shape their paths, and the difference between a mentor who offers honest guidance and a promoter who advocates on your behalf. They also share practical advice for young lawyers on approaching potential mentors, building authentic professional relationships, and learning from people both inside and outside the legal profession. This conversation highlights that mentorship is rarely a one-size-fits-all relationship—it often takes a village, a willingness to ask, and the courage to both receive and eventually offer meaningful guidance.</p>

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March 25, 2026

Business Development – Trust, Visibility, and Finding Your Style

<p>In this episode of It’s Not All Billable, hosts Jonathan Bench and Kato Aerts dive into the often-misunderstood world of business development in the legal profession. Drawing from personal experiences and candid reflections, they explore the difference between marketing and business development, the role of trust and accessibility in building client relationships, and why many lawyers feel uncomfortable with the idea of “selling.” From networking stories and early career lessons to practical advice on finding your own style and thinking like an owner, Jonathan and Kato offer a grounded, relatable perspective on growing a practice in a way that feels authentic. This conversation highlights that business development isn’t about gimmicks or perfection—it’s about connection, consistency, and playing the long game.</p>

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Hosted by Jonathan Bench and Kato Aerts, It’s Not All Billable takes listeners inside the lives of lawyers practicing across borders. Each episode explores how legal professionals navigate work-life balance within diverse cultural and legal environments. With insights on corporate and employment law developments from around the world, the show offers a global perspective on the practice of law, and what it means to build a career beyond the billable hour.

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