

- 6
- Episodes
- 2026
- First episode
About permanent underclass
AI is changing everything. We're just trying to keep up. Permanent Underclass explores automation, employment, creativity, and survival in the age of AI. No hype. No PhD required. Just honest conversations about what's coming and how to navigate it.
- Publisher
- Evan Schindler
- Category
- business · technology
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- Yes
- First episode
- 27 Feb 2026
- Latest episode
- 7 Apr 2026
Latest episodes
6 episodes in the feed.

7 Apr 2026
Permanent Underclass 006
The conversation covers the topics of AI job displacement, the use of peptides for health, and the concept of striverism in Asian culture. Each chapter explores these themes in detail, providing insights and perspectives on each topic. The conversation delves into the culture of optimization and striverism, the tech industry's influence on media, the impact of AI on middle management, the automation dilemma and longevity maxing, and the humorous take on NDAs and peptides. It also explores the implications of AI on organizational hierarchy and the future of work. Takeaways AI Job Displacement Peptides and Health Striverism and the Culture of Optimization The Impact of AI on Middle Management Chapters 00:00 AI Displacement Risk Index 19:31 The Culture of Optimization and Striverism 25:08 Media Influence and Billionaire Clashes 34:46 NDAs and Peptides

30 Mar 2026
permanent underclass 005
The conversation delves into the Vibe-Coded Era, the future of software, AI simulations, auto research, harness engineering, context management, Anthropic's use of Claude skills, Pokemon Go and AI training, and CAPTCHA and Duolingo. The discussion explores the impact of AI on software development, predictive models, and the utilization of user-generated data for AI training. Takeaways Vibe coding is reshaping the software landscape AI simulations are revolutionizing predictive models

19 Mar 2026
permanent underclass 004
The conversation delves into the impact of AI on job replacement and the evolving role of professionals in the AI era. It explores AI anxiety, its impact on real estate and legal services, the role of designers in the AI era, and productivity in the AI era. The conversation delves into the limitations of AI in strategic thinking and the rise of solopreneurship. It also explores the competition between Google and OpenAI, the concept of AI CMO, the role of web-hosted agents, human in the loop automation, and the future of work with a focus on solopreneurship. Takeaways AI's impact on job replacement The evolving role of professionals in the AI era AI's limitations in strategic thinking Rise of solopreneurship and individual freelancers Chapters 00:00 Productivity and Deliverables in the AI Era 22:16 AI CMO and Digital Gastronomy 31:17 Human in the Loop Automation

9 Mar 2026
permanent underclass 003
The conversation delves into the frontier of service work, focusing on AI adoption in small to medium-sized enterprises and the early stage of AI adoption. It explores the agentic wave and personal assistance, as well as the impact of AI on workload and productivity. Additionally, it touches on the relationship between AI and human experience. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on job displacement, the significance of open-source AI models, and the implications of AI on human cognition. It explores the caution needed in embracing AI, the value of open-source AI models, and the potential separation of individuals based on their interaction with AI. The discussion also touches on the evolving job landscape and the role of AI in various industries. Takeaways AI Adoption in Small to Medium-Sized Enterprises Early Stage of AI Adoption Agentic Wave and Personal Assistance Impact of AI on Workload and Productivity AI's impact on job displacement The role of open-source AI models The implications of AI on human cognition Chapters 00:00 The Frontier of Service Work: AI Adoption 06:58 AI Impact on Workload and Productivity 19:12 AI and Human Experience 25:02 Open-Source AI Models 39:04 AI and Human Cognition

5 Mar 2026
permanent underclass 002
The conversation covers the early adoption of AI and the evolution of AI models over time. It delves into the experiences of using AI tools, the challenges faced, and the impact of AI on various industries. The discussion also highlights the importance of domain expertise and first principles thinking in leveraging AI effectively. The conversation covers the themes of seizing opportunities, creating traction, automating workflows, managing AI agents, and closing remarks. Esteban's proactive approach to creating opportunities and leveraging available resources is evident throughout the discussion. He shares insights on taking initiative and utilizing tools to automate and manage workflows effectively. Takeaways Early Adoption of AI Evolution of AI Models Taking initiative without waiting for permission Utilizing available resources to create opportunities Chapters 00:00 Evolution of AI Models 36:01 Seizing Opportunities 42:59 Creating Traction 49:18 Automating Workflows 56:13 Managing AI Agents 01:03:05 Closing Remarks

27 Feb 2026
permanent underclass 001
keywords AI, automation, employment, OpenClaw, vibe coding, human involvement, software as a service, creativity, skills, distribution takeaways The name 'Permanent Underclass' reflects a societal concern about job security in the age of AI. AI's impact on employment is a significant topic, with many fearing job loss due to automation. Human involvement remains crucial in AI systems, especially in areas requiring judgment and empathy. OpenClaw represents a new paradigm in AI interaction, allowing for more dynamic and user-friendly experiences. The evolution of AI tools is rapid, with new capabilities emerging frequently. Setting up AI agents on VPS can enhance performance and reliability for developers. AI's role in creative fields is still developing, with a need for human creativity and oversight. Skills in AI are essential for maximizing the potential of AI tools and systems. Distribution of AI tools is a major challenge, as many innovations can be easily replicated. The future of software as a service is uncertain, with many believing it may not be sustainable long-term. summary In this episode of Permanent Underclass, Clyde and Evan explore the implications of AI on employment, the evolution of AI tools like OpenClaw, and the importance of human involvement in AI systems. They discuss the challenges of distribution in the AI landscape, the future of software as a service, and the creative potential of AI in various fields. The conversation emphasizes the need for optimism and adaptability in the face of rapid technological change. Titles Navigating the Permanent Underclass: AI and Employment AI's Role in the Future of Work sound bites "Are live? Are we doing this?" "You can add new organs to your claw bot." "Software as a service is dead." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Permanent Underclass 02:52 AI and the Future of Work 06:03 Human Involvement in AI Systems 08:53 The Evolution of OpenClaw and Vibe Coding 11:52 Skills and Security in AI Bots 15:06 Meetup Insights and Future of AI Interaction 30:29 Clawbot's Heartbeat and System Architecture 31:40 Creating Custom Skills for Efficiency 32:44 Understanding Bot Architecture and Functionality 34:11 Command Center Setup for Bot Management 35:55 Swarm Intelligence in AI Bots 37:35 Exploring AI Model Limitations 39:12 Breakthroughs in AI Design with Gemini 3.1 Pro 41:50 Navigating AI in Web Design 43:55 The Role of Human Creativity in AI 46:44 The Future of AI and Job Security 50:12 Distribution Challenges in AI Innovations
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