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September 5, 2020
生小孩满月歌 - 同一首歌的两个文本 - 录于2020年8月10日
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音时间:2020年8月10日</span><span>录音地点:杨乃言家</span><span>录音人:杨乃言、熊曼谕</span><span>演唱者:杨乃言</span><span><br /></span><span>杨乃言是一位在上海地铁里做清洁工作的苗族阿姨,是我的一位朋友熊曼谕的田野对象。和熊曼谕有交集,也是因为去年底,她希望能给她的田野工作进行一个年终总结,想请阿姨们唱歌,需要我提供一些小的帮助。</span><br /><span><br /></span><span>那次活动曼谕放了一支平铺直叙又充满情谊的视频,那是她在田野初期与阿姨的交流。</span><span><br /></span><span><br /></span></p><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>因为工作关系,今年我在浙江遇到几位在铝厂打工的苗族姐妹,当下想到了杨阿姨。那几位苗族姐妹不会唱歌(有些遗憾),可她们闲暇在宿舍时,常常在全民k歌上听其他苗族姐妹唱。她们讲,这是她们最开心最放松的时候。<br /></span><span><br /></span><span>曼谕讲,杨阿姨也会在全民K歌上唱,也会在微信上唱,唱了歌发给她。疫情期间,曼谕身在武汉,十分困顿。6月某日,她告诉我说,阿姨给她唱了一首歌,并且告诉她:小熊,想你得很。</span><span><br /></span><span>曼谕把歌发给我,虽然听不懂,但还是泪目。我说你应该写出来的,把你和你田野对象之间这种细微的,不可察觉的情感,写出来。于是有了此文:</span><a target="_blank" style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;">小熊,想你得很。</a><br /></p><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/ce36iaHJRic5wHLRXFzIVNzftlDl4JvxBsOy2UkY4VgxIKGNmXibP6ZS5eITFGVTwBpBOnicMvXgRiaC0oA8ZpaBgOg/640?wx_fmt=jpeg" /></p><span>杨乃言(左三)、熊曼谕(右一)在分享会上</span><span></span><span><br /></span><span>今天发来的这首歌,叫做</span><span>《生小孩满月歌》,阿姨的女儿最近要生产了,阿姨因此唱了这首歌。</span><span>微信上扔</span><span>来一段歌词:</span><br /><span><br /></span><span>我听到水流,</span><span>知道你的小孩要出生了。</span><span>你看村里的景色,</span><span>竹子知道什么时候从地里生长出来,</span><span>鱼知道什么时候出来,</span><span>你的小孩到了时间自然就会出生。</span><span>出来一个男孩,你对他好,</span><span>到时候当官,我就高兴。</span><span>我想来看你,</span><span>可我没有钱拿礼金看你,</span><span>我只有靠脚走路到你家,</span><span>拿眼睛看你,</span><span>我真对不起你的婆婆。</span><br /><span>我们都特别喜欢这段歌词,特别是最后那段,“我只有靠脚走路到你家,拿眼睛看你,我真对不起你的婆婆。”这段歌词充满了深深的直觉和身体性,它让杨阿姨悠长的转调,听起来那么失落和悲伤。</span><span><br /></span><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="1" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/ce36iaHJRic5wHLRXFzIVNzftlDl4JvxBsCxqMduRfa56yMmoqibpE2BTUT3FO7CvBXtCHwzT5PNomXlTyfB35jAg/640?wx_fmt=jpeg" /></p><span>杨阿姨常常在手机上唱歌</span><span><br /></span><span>可能因为研究的关系,小熊还是请人翻译了整段歌词,如下:</span><span><br /></span> <span> <strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">HXAK JIB DAIB BAID HLAT</strong></span><span><strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">小孩满月歌</strong></span><br /><span>Hnangd jox eb diongl los,</span><span>听到山冲溪水流,</span><span>Hnangd mongx qab diangl nas,</span><span>听说妹你有身孕,</span><span>Ghaib zeb diangl bos wus,</span><span>似如竹笋在根部,</span><span>Zeb diangl ob pit liangs,</span><span>嫩笋尖头两边冒,</span><span>Jib jenl ob pit nas,</span><span>笋头冒出两旁立,</span><span>Eb hxed lal jit jes,</span><span>时到暖水逆向流,</span><span>Hxib hxed wil fangt mais,</span><span>娃儿降生是吉时,</span><span>Yangl liek nangl vut gens(k),</span><span>定要好好养育娃,</span><span>Nenx hlieb lol ait vas,</span><span>待娃长大念书时,</span><span>Mongl niangb wangx nangl dins,</span><span>才智榜中官家院,</span><span>Mongl hxub wangx nangl mos,</span><span>金榜提名官帽戴,</span><span>Bul lol laib lil dlas,</span><span>朋友来的礼物厚,</span><span>Lol dol bib dol bongs(k)</span><span>送些背带及裸被,</span><span>Dlol lol laib lil xens,</span><span>阿妹礼品来得淡,</span><span>Wil lol ob jil mais</span><span>我拿两眼来观望,</span><span>Ob jil lob lol des</span><span>两脚走起来跟上,</span><span>Xet niox hxib dol wus(k).</span><span>敬请阿婆别介意。</span><br /><span>我和小熊讲,我对这段歌词爱不起来,虽然我晓得也许它本应是这样。但可能在田野中,听到太多的歌词翻译,因为歌者的汉语水平有限(我们又何尝不是呢?),得到的翻译,常常口语化。就比如说,今天我们也讨论到我在茂县录到的这首情歌:</span><span><br /></span><span>两个相互想念的人</span><span>距离远着呢</span><span>想见也见不到</span><span>肩膀有好长</span><span>但还是搭不起一座桥来见你</span><span>头发有好长</span><span>但还是变不起流水来见你</span><span>我想变成一只老鹰,飞到你面前</span><span>我想变成一只獐子,奔到你面前</span><span></span><span><br /></span><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>在听打翻译的时候,我所感动的,是这首歌词,就好像是一位爱人在向另一位爱人娓娓道来。而这首《小孩满月歌》,则是阿姨充满爱意又遗憾的情愫,就好像流水一样,向着家里的方向流淌。</span></p><span><br /></span><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>我又转回看了曼谕的那个视频,平铺直叙中见真意。我想:也许唱歌和讲话,文学化和口语化的文本,得到的感动也是因人而异。当你仔细听视频里的阿姨说话,她们可真是把话说成了歌,把歌唱成了诗,把诗铺满了生命啊。</span></p><span><br /></span><p style="font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>又:阿姨的全民K歌账号叫做“杨家村一杨梅”,我猜是熊曼谕给取的。</span></p><br />

July 4, 2020
Vol 32 | 厦门的夜海 - 录于2020年6月30日凌晨
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音时间:2020年6月30日凌晨</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音地点:厦门白沙海滩</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音器材:Zoom H6</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音时长:8分07秒</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>我年轻的时候,在嵊泗海边听杨福东说,他喜欢一个词叫“踏海”。我想象里,一个人如果能踏海而行,是极其浪漫的事情。</span><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>后来有人给我形容夜海,说,夜海是极美的,因为你<strong style="color:#FC5832;word-break:break-all;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;">什么都看不到</strong>。我的记忆里隐约是在06年,我在厦门和青岛的海边各踏过一次夜海。听到有人称“夜海”时,想起了杨福东讲的“踏海”,觉得和海有关的词,各个都很伟大诗意。“踏夜海”则是双倍诗意。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>自关于夜海的伟大诗意一直在我脑子里打转,一直想再踏夜海。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/ce36iaHJRic5za4tnDKXWIVepdzcTiaAKVvCx16Yy0j6Mwoq3Jb3rm2fibvh9POQPbgoZSRDYX9HHfgYVy3cEbibzSQ/0?wx_fmt=png"></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>厦大门口的白沙海滩,半夜12点,人已经很少。</span><span>有两位</span><span>少年站在做成礁石状的排污管上,畅谈人生;</span><span>一位母亲带着自己的孩子,避开白天的太阳,在半夜晒月亮,踏夜海,挖沙子;还有一位郁郁不得志的河南大妈在无人的沙滩上,卖玫瑰。</span><br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="1" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/ce36iaHJRic5za4tnDKXWIVepdzcTiaAKVviccPMEAbm4qYvtohA5Lib9uKwo9wDWF5alzgib3TYibj3fBlQbF10QB6Jg/0?wx_fmt=png"></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>白沙海滩的夜海,不是完全暗的,就在对面,有一些灯火,也许是码头在工作。和着月亮娘娘光,夜海斑驳,显示出光怪陆离的一面。<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>我爱夜海,如若没有月亮娘娘的照耀,仅仅一片乌黑的话,大海拍打沙滩的声音,就好像回到母体。“回到母体”,这大概是很多人热爱大海的原因。<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>据说,厦门对面台湾的海,没有边际,可以看到海天一线,地球是圆的。这种望不到边的状态,叫做“决眦”。杜甫写“决眦<span>入</span>归鸟”,讲的是穷目泰山的美景。遥望太平洋的“决眦”,则真正是看到眼睛爆裂也看不到边际的伟大。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>回酒店的路上,月亮娘娘躲进了一朵像阿拉丁神灯的云里。又据讲,月亮娘娘是不能用手指着的,否则要被割去耳朵。我想了想,耳朵是万万不能割的,我还得留着它们听海的。<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="2" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/ce36iaHJRic5za4tnDKXWIVepdzcTiaAKVvgh7YRrnFtZptAYrNAmEoLzDUmdUHYD9thVsM7M52YJByo10PsrSYwg/0?wx_fmt=png"></p><span><br></span><br>

June 27, 2020
Vol 31 | 穿越山水和生死的经文 - 录于2019年7月21日
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音时间:2020年7月21日</span><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音地点:理县蒲溪乡休溪村</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音时长:6分21秒</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音:Kyle</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>录音器材:Zaxcom Maxx / C414</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>时间回转一年,在理县蒲溪乡休溪村,王福山老释比还和老伴一起生活在地震前的老寨子里。年轻人都说,现在没人住在老寨子了,只有他们俩。我们去采访王爷爷,都要从新寨子下到寨门,再穿过长长的一段长满蒲公英和其他野草的田间小路。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/ce36iaHJRic5zFH7lSLGZxTOQSXPghnP6VzyLSw2P9UtblZAOew5ia68lXfK3OjR9tAa2t8qibpwQfjId9nWz7eDLw/640?wx_fmt=png"><span><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>去王大爷家的小径</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>村里的年轻人小徐昨天微信上发来讲,王爷爷走了。<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>有些遗憾的是,去年底还想着去理县找王大爷喝酒的,但每每想到开车的那些距离,一犹豫,就作罢了。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>第二次去的时候,我看到王大爷把南京大学某个团队给他拍的抽烟的照片,挂在家里院子最显眼的位置。还特意跟他讲,王大爷,我给你放一张照片,你一定要把我的照片挂在这里,替代掉那张照片哦。因为我把你拍得更帅。</span></p><span><br></span><img data-key="1" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/ce36iaHJRic5zFH7lSLGZxTOQSXPghnP6Vz6H6GYzXlCk9V7PonUgWrMgSZu0Ceea284Y0rSAOxYRN9cQxh6kZJA/640?wx_fmt=jpeg"><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><span>摄影</span><span>:</span><span>Dan7</span></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>王大爷满口答应。后来照片挂上了,他当然也没舍得把那张抽烟的拿下来。就一起并排挂着了。所以现在他家的院子里挂着三张他的照片,可惜人已经不在了。</span></p><span><br></span><img data-key="2" src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_jpg/ce36iaHJRic5zFH7lSLGZxTOQSXPghnP6VdqJjl5eBtxMkVodrPYTwlZpO7SvJnAicaZaicQZdcB1vmhia4CcFr4drg/640?wx_fmt=jpeg"><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>摄影:Dan7</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>今天的录音,是19年7月在他家采访时录的释比念经。王大爷讲,这是他们最最老的老师傅教给的,人生病的时候,就要到各个地方去请菩萨,帮忙一起治病。理县的人吧,就从薛城开始请;如果远一点的,可能要从成都请菩萨;再远一点的,大概就要从北京去请菩萨来了。<br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>那天唱完后,王大爷把我灌得神魂颠倒,不能自已。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>昨天得知王大爷走的消息后,我默默找到了这段录音,听了一会。不知道王大爷走之前有没有给自己唱这段经?我总是想,做释比是特别累的工作,他们要跑那么老远的地方,请到那么多菩萨,帮凡人那么多忙。他们的菩萨缘和人缘一定都很好。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>现在这段经文,终于跟着他穿越生死,他也终于可以带着它跋山涉水去所有唱过的那些地方看一看了。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>就这样,又一位老释比走了。“最最老的老师父”们,还没来得及把羌人的故事和文化全部讲完。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>一声叹息。</span></p><span><br></span><br>
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