「欲止又言SaytheSwallowedWords」是一档由两个看似空闲的准清华研究生创办的播客。说点想说的，无意冒犯 ฅ́˘ฅ
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「欲止又言SaytheSwallowedWords」是一档由两个看似空闲的准清华研究生创办的播客。说点想说的，无意冒犯 ฅ́˘ฅ 新浪微博丨微信公众号：欲止又言SaytheSwallowedWords
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August 17, 2022
26. 职场第一年：机智的编剧生活【不止工作】
<p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【主播的话】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">又是一年暑假，距离我们本科毕业已经过去了整整一年。这一年也是本期节目嘉宾芝士，步入影视行业的第一年。“说不定当编剧才最适合我”的截图曾经长久地成为芝士的微博置顶。当创作成为工作，作为影视剧生产流程中的一环，芝士又有哪些失落与欣喜的时刻呢？</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【主播】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">小周，新浪微博 @蓦山溪—</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">小霍，新浪微博 @荻港_</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期嘉宾】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span>芝士，复旦毕业生，某影视公司影视策划</span></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期要点】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">[02:25] 影视策划是什么？——影视行业的产品经理<br>[06:15] 灵魂拷问：你还热爱这份工作吗?<br>[07:53] 行业流程：一部影视剧是怎么诞生的？<br>[14:01] 如何处理IP改编滞后社会思潮的问题？<br>[18:14] 国产剧还能更好吗？从《奇怪律师禹英雨》说起<br>[20:59] 营销逻辑：长视频与短视频之争<br>[26:29] 新人编剧的行业壁垒<br>[29:05] 离受众够“近”但不够“深”的影视剧<br>[36:50] 我们三个都喜欢的电视剧：《突如其来的假期》《正义的算法》<br>[40:00] 心态转变：从真情实感到娱乐消遣<br>[44:34] 剧组八卦分享环节<br></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期音乐】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">片头：</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">I'll Be There For You - The Rembrandts</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">此生不换 - 青鸟飞鱼</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">星月神话 - 金莎</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">无法原谅 - 李佳璐</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">好久不见 - 李小龙</p><br><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">片尾：</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">colorblind - Mokita</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【联系我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">yuzhiyouyan2020@163.com</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【收听我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">[喜马拉雅]</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;">https://xima.tv/kOtV3G?_sonic=0</a></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【关注我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">新浪微博丨微信公众号</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span>搜索「欲止又言</span>SaytheSwallowedWords<span>」</span></p>
May 29, 2022
25. 离沪日记：感谢善良的人们和我全部的欧气
<p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【主播的话】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">回忆拥有毕业典礼和不完全旅行自由的2021年初夏，那种近乎正常的生活仿佛还在眼前。然而2022年的5月，被困在宿舍内的上海大学生们，只想赶快逃离这个曾经寄托他们希望的城市。本期节目，我们邀请了成功从上海前往杭州的康康与林总，以及从上海前往西安的楼楼。在抢票、核酸、寄送行李、前往火车站等一系列繁琐的准备工作之外，她们也想感谢路上遇到的所有好心人和自己的好运气。</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【主播】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">小周，新浪微博 @蓦山溪—</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">小霍，新浪微博 @荻港_</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期嘉宾】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span>楼楼，</span><span>复旦大学应届毕业生</span><span>，新浪微博@</span><span>楼楼又在换马甲了</span></p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">康康&林总，某不知名复旦研究生情侣</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期要点】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">[01:46] 小霍和小周在北京的情况<br>[03:55] 为什么选择西安&杭州：车票、家乡、签证与隔离政策<br>[11:55] 离校是离沪的第一步<br>[16:38] 楼老师：能用钱解决的事都不是大事<br>[20:12] 楼老师：一路上遇到了太多善良的人<br>[23:48] 楼老师：大白像领孩子一样把我领到对接点<br>[27:04] 康康：终于不需要自证清白了<br>[32:10] 康康：穿越杭州东站时“被观看”的魔幻经历<br>[36:40] 康康：这一趟花光了我下半年所有的欧气<br>[43:51] 楼老师：在酒店里，我被叫了一周的“627” <br>[47:55] 报复性消费：八十块的炸鸡、裙子与玛丽珍鞋<br>[50:54] 学校不能堂食之后：假装在塞纳河边野餐<br>[1:00:20] 结束隔离之后的美好畅想<br>[1:02:49] 那些不得不说的上海虹桥火车站盛况<br>[1:14:28] 关于未来：我们还会回到上海吗？<br></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【本期音乐】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">片头：</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">I Need a Cup of Coffee and Some Bread for Wake up<span> - </span><span>In Love With A Ghost</span></p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">片尾：</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">在你身边就失去超能力<span> - </span><span>21.</span></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【联系我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">yuzhiyouyan2020@163.com</p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【收听我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">[喜马拉雅]</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;">https://xima.tv/kOtV3G?_sonic=0</a></p><span><br></span><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">【关注我们】</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;">新浪微博丨微信公众号</p><p data-flag="normal" style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span>搜索「欲止又言</span>SaytheSwallowedWords<span>」</span></p>
March 19, 2022
24. 科学不能100%解释现实，但星座、塔罗和MBTI可以
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【主播的话】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">能不能顺利升学、暑假实习能否成功入职，和心仪对象能不能更进一步……当我们站在现实生活的小小岔路口，总有一些“玄学”给予我们选择的力量。本期节目的起源是我们的老朋友kaka为了毕业论文写作而发送的钓鱼朋友圈，探究具有良好科学素养的大学生们为什么还会相信星座、塔罗和MBTI。我们也邀请了新朋友，对塔罗有浓厚兴趣的A老师一起聊聊这个话题。在迷信和科学的分野之外，我们也许需要的是一种应对不确定性的方式。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">P.S. 节目内容仅代表主持人和嘉宾个人观点，请大家相信科学：）</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【主播】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">小周，新浪微博 @蓦山溪—，玄学2.5级爱好者</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">小霍，新浪微博 @荻港_，玄学0.5级爱好者</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期嘉宾】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">kaka，复旦研究生，新浪微博 @味增酱油年糕饼，玄学4.5级爱好者</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">April（A老师），南加大研究生，新浪微博@鹿乙—，玄学3.5级爱好者</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">以上玄学评级参照李克特5级量表�（“0—5”表示从“非常不相信”到“非常相信”）</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">【本期要点】</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[05:40] 从一条为了毕业论文招募玄学爱好者的钓鱼朋友圈说起</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[09:39] 为什么有一定科学素养的大学生也对星盘感兴趣？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[11:26] 看星盘的流程是什么？什么宫？什么位？什么星？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[15:10] A老师算塔罗的经历：猜中了心动男嘉宾的星座</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[19:35] kaka的塔罗牌科普时间 + 东占西占那些事儿</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[24:46] 小周：神算子ka老师给我看盘看得真挺准</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[29:49] kaka：“我说我要看盘之后，来了二十多个国内外知名大学的研究生”</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[39:48] 提问小霍：为什么不信星座的人会相信MBTI？</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[46:07] kaka的发现：说完全不感兴趣的，可能是死鸭子嘴硬</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[52:11] 玄学：一种当代大学生应对未来不确定性的方式</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">[57:22] ka老师当场表演，猜中了A老师的太阳和月亮星座</p><span><br></span><p 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