a refreshing conversation, hosted by E, is an unscripted podcast built around the kind of dialogue that happens when people feel comfortable enough to just be themselves. Each episode brings together real people — some E has known for years, others she’s meeting for the first time — all bringing their stories, their humor, and their perspective.
The conversations aren’t rushed or rehearsed. They find their own rhythm. They wander a little, settle in, and open up the way real conversations do when the vibe is right. There’s space for laughter, honesty, curiosity, and those small moments that stay with you long after you’ve heard them.
Rooted in lived experience and the culture that shaped it, the show creates a place where connection feels natural and the conversation feels good — steady, real, and exactly what it needs to be.
And when it’s all said and done, what you’re left with is…
a refreshing conversation.
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Send us Fan Mail Episode Description In this episode, E chats with Peaches,. She's the kind of person who has seen the highs, the lows, and the moments in between… and still makes space for honesty, laughter, and love. The 21 moves through Caribbean travel, petty pet peeves, dream concerts, signature scents, and the kind of questions that reveal who someone really is. Then comes The One. What have you done for you lately? The conversation shifts into exhaustion, responsibility, and what it me...
25 Mar 2026
Season 2 Episode 5- Jerimy
Send us Fan Mail Episode Title Life Goes On Episode Description In this episode, E chats with Jerimy, a world traveler and educator. Though they’ve never met in person, their conversations have spanned multiple continents. The 21 moves through travel, perspective, pet peeves, and the small things that reveal how someone sees the world. Then comes The One. What has travel taught you? The conversation shifts into perspective. Not just where you’ve been, but how it’s shaped how you think, ...
16 Mar 2026
Season 2 Episode 4 - "Ramond"
Send us Fan Mail Episode Title What Would This Chapter Be Called? Episode Description Sometimes you meet someone and the connection is instant. Easy conversation, real laughs, and the kind of energy that makes it feel like you’ve known each other much longer than you actually have. That’s the vibe of this episode. E sits down with Ramond, an entrepreneur whose world moves through three pillars: music, travel, and finance. The 21 kicks things off with laid-back conversation about Denver snow, ...
11 Mar 2026
Season 2 Episode 3- "Damien"
Send us Fan Mail What Your Future Self Will Thank You For Episode Description For Episode 3, E sits down with Damien, a longtime friend whose conversations always come with humor, honesty, and plenty of personality. The 21 brings out airport snacks, shoe collections, dream concerts in Singapore, signature scents, procrastination, and a real appreciation for simply showing up for people. Damien talks about support, self-care, and why presence matters more than people think. Then comes The One....
1 Mar 2026
Season 2 Episode 2- "Jones"
Send us Fan Mail Episode Title What If You Could Never Lose Episode Description This time, E sits down with Jones. A friend who’s basically a brother. The kind of person who’s down to shenan and shenan again. The 21 starts light. Petty peeves. Lottery signs. Warm-towel luxury. A full 2002 velour comeback. Dream concerts and DJ names. But somewhere between laughter and honesty, the conversation shifts. Imposter syndrome. Learning to actually receive “good job.” The burden of being aware. The l...
17 Feb 2026
Season 2 Episode 1-"V"
Send us Fan Mail Episode Title Legacy, Laughter, and 20+ Years of Friendship Episode Description It only made sense that the first guest of Season 2 would be someone E's known for over two decades. In this episode, E sits down with a longtime friend and lets the format do what it’s supposed to do. The 21 brings out stories, unexpected answers, and plenty of laughs that only happen when people actually know each other. Then comes The One. The conversation shifts into legacy. Not th...
16 Feb 2026
In (A Refreshing) Conversation with E
Send us Fan Mail Episode Title In (A Refreshing) Conversation with E Episode Description Season 2 Opener It was supposed to be a short break. It turned into almost seven years. In this opening episode, E returns to the mic and explains what actually kept the podcast from coming back sooner. Not the polite answers. The real one: fear, uncertainty, overthinking, wanting things to be perfect, and waiting to have life figured out before speaking again. A lot has changed. Leaving a stable career. ...
10 Apr 2019
WE DID IT! 1st Season complete!
Send us Fan Mail In this final episode of season 1, E and King reflect on their best and "Daaaamn" moments from season 1, even those that came when they were not on the show. They'll answer such questions like: What was their favorite episode from season 1?What positive feedback did they receive from listeners?What was the negative feedback received from listeners? What they're looking forward to in Season 2?and much more.They'll also share their thoughts on the murder of rapper and c...
25 Mar 2019
21 Questions Part 2
Send us Fan Mail Yo! We’re back Y'all after a short break E and King are back on the mic with an all NEW episode of a refreshing conversation. This episode can be described in one word: an outrageously, hysterically, fantastically, insanely, wildly entertaining, stomach-turning laughter of a damn good time. Welcome to 21 Questions: Part Duex (Two). Quick spoiler, not really, but kind of...in this episode we learn how - Why King identifies with a teenage whit...
5 Mar 2019
Getting Back Out There
Send us Fan Mail You're back into the single life dropped into a world of joyous possibilities and excitement but also an endless space of “dating” apps, profiles, and first dates. 🤦🏾♂️. In this episode, E and King discuss the modern dating culture and how the game has changed due to the evolution of technology. Is meet-cute still a possibility, a reality, in today’s dating culture or have first encounters been restricted to our screen? How long should you wait before you jump...
25 Feb 2019
Minding My (Black) Owned Business Part 4
Send us Fan Mail Minding My (Black) Owned Business In this episode of a refreshing conversation, we review the first episode of Killer Mike's Netflix series "Trigger Warnings", in which he spends three days using and consuming only products that come from the Black community. We are HERE for the mission but um...Killer Mike's goal leaves him car-less, hungry, and scrambling for a place to stay. Why though? In 2019 why don't we have a stake in these commodity driven industries?! ...
18 Feb 2019
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 3
Send us Fan Mail E and King continue their "Minding My Black (Owned) Business" with a discussion on the challenges, or not, that come with being in a relationship with an entrepreneur. The long hours can be challenging and the lack of financial security can be a deal breaker. But is dating or being married to an entrepreneur all bad? Are there bright moments in the relationship that make the long hours and limited finances worth it? What does it look like when both partners are entre...
11 Feb 2019
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 2
Send us Fan Mail E and King continue their "Minding My Black (Owned) Business" series with a conversation on the state of Black businesses. Listen in as they discuss the “Homie discount” and how it plagues Black businesses, why it’s time for Blacks to have a bigger stake in the hair and nail industry, and how HBCUs and Black businesses have more in common than you think. They’ll also share their personal experiences with Black businesses; those that left them walking away ✊🏾 in ...
4 Feb 2019
Minding My Black (Owned) Business Part 1
Send us Fan Mail Welcome back, welcome back, wel-come back! E and King are back and on the mic bringing you all new series on entrepreneurship and Black business. To kick off this series, E and King share their personal insight into the life of an entrepreneur. They'll discuss the realities of living the entrepreneurial life dishing on the glitz, glamour and pain because, keeping it 100, all that glitters is not gold. Topics to be covered: Maximize your networking with effective str...
14 Jan 2019
What It's Like To Be Black: Sounds Of Black Life
Send us Fan Mail Join E and King for a powerful episode on the Black (American) experience, at home and abroad. In this episode, they'll give insight into the complexities of Black (American) life: from having to prove their Americanism, defend a country that (still) systematically oppresses them, or dealing with the anxieties of returning to America. This is a practice in introspection as E and King dig deep to reveal their personal struggles as well as the general trials of Black (Am...
31 Dec 2018
21 Questions For E and King - Getting to Know The Host
Send us Fan Mail Creating a podcast can be challenging. Creating a podcast with a complete stranger is even more challenging. Right? In this episode, get to know E and King as they (continue) to get to know each other. The animated duo briefly reflect on their 3 month journey and dive into a tell-all game of 21 Questions! If you enjoy badass DJ names, shameful "WTF" was I thinking relationships, stories about that lie you had no business telling, then you'll enjoy this game of 21 ques...
19 Dec 2018
What's (Black) Love Got To Do With It?
Send us Fan Mail In this episode E and King share their views on Black Love. What is it? How do you know when you have it? Is it something that is simply manifested when two Black people decide to share their lives together? They'll also ponder and attempt to answer these questions: How does the African American experience shape Black Love? Do other races have their own versions of "Black Love?" Don't miss this episode as E and King take a deeper look into this unique version of love...
27 Oct 2018
Black Panther & "Most Popular Film" Award at the Oscars
Send us Fan Mail On this week's show, film addicts E and King address the initial controversy of the Oscars committee announcement to add the "Most Popular Film" award, why the committee retracted the award, and why many people believe this was meant to be nothing more than a pat on the back for the record setting movie Black Panther. Plus, we'll share our thoughts on the need for a "Black" Oscars and what that would look like. Disclaimer: This episode as with its predecessors were recorded d...
20 Oct 2018
Am I Black Excellence?
Send us Fan Mail In this episode E and King discuss the culture of "Black Excellence" and how this moniker has become the singular determinant of progress and achievement in the Black community. Is this fair? Who decides the measure of Black Excellence? Has Black Excellence been reserved for elitist liberalism? Have a listen as we discuss these questions and more!
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