A Whole Other Country is a new podcast from the award-winning Marfa Public Radio Studios.
Back in the ‘90s, in an off-the-grid neighborhood in the mountains of Far West Texas, a wannabe vintner started his own Wild West nation. Reporter and host Zoe Kurland drives the long, bumpy roads of the Davis Mountains to talk to a cast of neighbors and onlookers who watched the story of the standoff unfold in real time -- the myths of the frontier crashing violently into reality.
It’s been nearly 30 years since the Republic of Texas standoff. The lean-to embassy has been scattered in the wind. What happened in Rick’s wake? What did he leave behind? What is the DMR like now– how did Rick McLaren change this place?
Flavors of this episode: burning embassies, T.V. specials, oxygen tanks, TEXIT, Hollywood, Matthew McConaughey, old cowboy songs, why we all live here.
Reported and produced by Zoe Kurland. Edited by Liza Yeager.
29 Oct 2025
Episode 5: The Standoff
During the days after Rick McLaren declared war, what would come to be known as the Republic of Texas Standoff, an unprecedented number of people descended on the Davis Mountains, waiting to see what would happen. And people across the world were all tuned in – watching their TVs, listening on the radio – to the real life Wild West drama, playing out in the reaches of the Texas.
Flavors of this episode: Cameras, kidnappers, car tires, impromptu laundromats, novelty tee shirts, baby aoudads, the horse brigade, satellites, shiny belt buckles, and ham radio.
22 Oct 2025
Episode 4: King of the Lean-To
Rick McLaren breaks ground in the DMR, and on the world wide web. It doesn’t take long for his followers to come running up the mountain. With guns. The authorities start paying attention, and local media takes note. Rick’s neighborhood grudges intensify to their breaking point.
Flavors of this episode: fax machines, tin sheds, Thelma and Louise, rolling chairs, guns, toothless cronies, and blood on the floor.
Reported and produced by Zoe Kurland. Edited by Liza Yeager.
15 Oct 2025
Episode 3: Getting Squinky
There are these bumper stickers everywhere – a Texas flag with a big word printed at the top: SECEDE. What’s the story of Texas independence and how has it been told? What captivated Rick McLaren and his new country mates?
Flavors of this episode: lobby music, bumper stickers, technicolor, racoon hats, glossy brochures, cotton gloves, and Walt Disney.
Reported and produced by Zoe Kurland. Edited by Liza Yeager. This episode features additional field recording by Carlos Morales.
8 Oct 2025
Episode 2: Gentle and Sweet
How did Rick McLaren, an enthusiastic magazine reader from Ohio, become the leader of a secessionist nation in Texas? Zoe dives into the archives to find out.
Flavors of this episode: tennis balls, Chenin Blanc, dusty records, hot dogs, microfilm, courthouse carpet, iPads.
A Whole Other Country is produced and reported by Zoe Kurland and edited by Liza Yeager.
Donate to Marfa Public Radio at https://www.marfapublicradio.org/ (https://www.marfapublicradio.org/)
8 Oct 2025
Episode 1: A Very Long Road
Back in ‘90s, in the mountains of Far West Texas, one man started his own nation. Reporter Zoe Kurland decides to find out what happens when the myths of the frontier crash violently into reality.
Flavors of this episode: piney woods, donkey musk, frozen mice, alarms clocks, Prius engine covers.
A Whole Other Country is produced and reported by Zoe Kurland and edited by Liza Yeager.
Donate to Marfa Public Radio at https://www.marfapublicradio.org/ (https://www.marfapublicradio.org/)
29 Sept 2025
Welcome to A Whole Other Country
A new podcast from Marfa Public Radio Studios. Coming October 8th.
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