Above and Below is the official podcast of the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention (CIASP). Hosted by Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, this series explores mental health in construction from every angle—what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to change. With honest conversations, expert insights, and real stories from the field, Above and Below brings awareness to the challenges the industry faces—and the people driving meaningful change.
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Above and Below is the official podcast of the Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention (CIASP). Hosted by Sonya Bohmann and Zulq Malik, this series explores mental health in construction from every angle—what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to change. With honest conversations, expert insights, and real stories from the field, Above and Below brings awareness to the challenges the industry faces—and the people driving meaningful change.
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Recent Episodes
June 22, 2026
Episode 30: Better: John Sobetsky on Vulnerability, Mental Health, and Breaking the Cycle
In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik sit down with John Sobetsky of Mainline Security Solutions for one of the most honest and personal conversations we’ve had on the podcast. John shares his journey through grief, depression, substance abuse, suicidal thoughts, and the long road toward healing. From losing his grandmother at a young age to hitting rock bottom in his twenties, John opens up about the experiences that shaped him and the choices that ultimately changed his life. Together, they discuss the impact of being raised by “hard men,” the importance of vulnerability, the value of therapy, and why mental health requires ongoing work. John also shares how fitness, family, self-awareness, and community have helped him build a healthier future and why he’s committed to teaching the next generation that strength and emotion can coexist. This episode is a powerful reminder that healing is not a destination. It’s a daily commitment to being better than you were yesterday.
June 8, 2026
Episode 29: Real Talk from the Jobsite: Ben Jump on Prevention, Loss, and Looking Out for Each Other
In this episode of Above and Below, host Sonya Bohmann and co-host Zulq Malik sit down with Ben Jump, a safety technician, former tradesman, and comedian from New York, for an honest conversation about mental health, jobsite culture, and the real-world challenges facing construction workers today. Drawing from his experience as a carpenter, welder, and precaster, Ben shares what life on the road can feel like, including loneliness, pressure, and the coping habits many workers develop while away from home. He also opens up about losing both a friend and a colleague to suicide and how those experiences strengthened his commitment to prevention and peer support. The conversation explores everything from camaraderie and workplace recognition to postvention planning and the importance of simply checking in on one another. Along the way, Ben reminds us that laughter, connection, and community can be powerful tools in supporting mental health. This episode is a candid reminder that prevention starts with conversation and that no one should have to carry their struggles alone.
May 29, 2026
Episode 28: Stronger than the Silence– The Road to Recovery Begins with a Voice
In this special episode of Above and Below, we bring you the powerful recorded conversation from Stronger Than the Silence: The Road to Recovery Begins with a Voice. Produced by CIASP and the Turner Foundation, in cooperation with SAFE Project, this conversation explores the realities of substance use, recovery, and mental health within the construction industry through honest, personal storytelling and meaningful dialogue. Listeners will hear firsthand perspectives on the challenges many workers face, the stigma that too often keeps people silent, and the importance of creating workplaces where recovery and support are possible. This conversation is a reminder that behind every struggle is a person, and that recovery begins when we are willing to listen, speak up, and stand beside one another. Whether you work in construction, lead a team, or care about someone in the industry, this episode offers hope, insight, and a powerful call to action: recovery starts with a voice.
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