Above the Fray, hosted by Winnie Cisar and Justin Patrie, cuts through market chatter with sharp insights on credit, ratings, and the macro forces shaping decisions. Each week, it puts power into perspective by connecting timely developments to the bigger themes of driving markets, turning complexity into clear, actionable insight for issuers, investors, and market participants.
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Why do bonds matter so much? Robin Wigglesworth joins Winnie Cisar and Justin Patrie to explore how debt built the modern world, what rising Treasury yields mean, how ETFs are reshaping credit markets, and where the AI investment boom may be headed.
12 Oct 2026
The New Power Brokers
What’s really powering the AI boom? Winnie Cisar talks with Andy DeVries and Wish Bakshi about data centers, compute scarcity, energy demand, natural gas, and the credit risks behind AI infrastructure as hyperscalers race to build the future.
7 Oct 2026
Late Cycle, Fewer Backups
Fitch Ratings' Chief Risk Officer Richard Hunter joins host Justin Patrie to explore global credit risks in 2026, from AI and private credit to geopolitics and government debt. An insightful look at late-cycle vulnerabilities and lessons from the Global Financial Crisis.
2 Oct 2026
Financing the Future
Recorded during Climate Week, this episode explores sustainable debt, climate resilience, AI infrastructure, and data center financing. Winnie Cisar, Marcy Block, and Steve Liberatore share insights into emerging trends and investment opportunities.
21 Sept 2026
Private Credit Unpacked
Is private credit a systemic risk or the next frontier of finance? Justin Patrie sits down with Fitch’s Meghan Neenan and Ruth Yang to unpack defaults, redemptions, AI-driven software stress, and what's ahead for this $6T asset class.
16 Sept 2026
The Mighty Consumer - Bending or Breaking?
Is the mighty US consumer reaching a breaking point? Host Justin Patrie sits down with CreditSights' James Goldstein and Fitch's Olu Sonola to unpack 'fragile stability,' value-seeking spending, the labor market, and whether the economy is truly K-shaped.
8 Sept 2026
The Thread That Pulls Everything Apart
Winnie Cisar & CIBC's Chris Harvey break down the SpaceX IPO, AI's $500B buildout, global competition & leverage in the system. Is a market melt-up next? Don't miss their smart takes on credit vs. equity.
2 Sept 2026
Meet the Minds Behind the Mic
Before we dive into markets and macro, meet the minds behind the mic. Hosts Winnie Cisar and Justin Patrie share their winding paths into finance, what sets Fitch apart, how AI is reshaping research, and the podcasts and books that fuel their curiosity.
26 Aug 2026
Introducing "Above the Fray" - Fitch Group's New Podcast on Credit, Markets & Global Trends
Markets move quickly, and so do the forces shaping credit, the economy, and global markets. Above the Fray is Fitch Group’s new weekly podcast covering the biggest developments in credit, macro, geopolitics, and market trends. Hosted by Winnie Cisar and Justin Patrie, the series offers expert analysis and clear perspectives to help audiences stay informed.
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