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Above the Sides

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by Pono Shim, Molly Mamaril

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58 episodes
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Podcast Overview

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced. The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace. We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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3/25/2021

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June 4, 2026

On Emptiness with Pono Shim

In this reflection, we revisit a recording from May 31, 2020 with the late Pono Sam as he shares his thoughts on haʻahaʻa, the practice of becoming empty, humble, and open. Through reflections on mindfulness and listening, he reminds us that some of our greatest insights can emerge if we create space for them through presence.

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May 13, 2026

Can You Find the Aloha Response? with Pono Shim

In this reflection episode of Above the Sides, the late Pono Shim shares the personal origin story behind his lifelong aloha practice. Recorded from a 2020 Zoom conversation, Uncle Pono reflects on a formative walk with his great-aunt, Pilahi Paki, who taught him not how to speak Hawaiian, but how to “think Hawaiian” through presence, humility, and intentional practice. Through stories of his ʻohana, silence, and real-world experiences, he shares how he navigated aloha as a lived practice - a way of responding to life with awareness and connection. Mahalo for tuning in. Episode Highlights 01:04 ʻOhana roots and influences 02:20 Early lessons 04:14 The walk that changed everything 05:17 "Think Hawaiian" 07:17 Three layers of meaning 09:53 Aloha practice: Ahonui to Lokahi 15:26 Permission to share the teachings 16:36 Lifetime discipline of aloha 17:51 Hiking Koko Head - a revelation 21:05 Practicing in silence 24:24 Real-world case study 26:52 Presence

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April 7, 2026

Storyfinding with Denise Karratti

In this episode of Above the Sides, Denise Karratti, vice principal of Waimea High School on Kauaʻi, shares her journey into education and the sense of kuleana she carries for her community. Denise reflects on the power of “storyfinding,” uncovering meaningful lessons in everyday moments and using them to lead with clarity, humility and aloha. She offers insights from her experience working in a tight knit, multigenerational community, where the impact of education can be seen across decades. Through thoughtful stories, Denise highlights the importance of planting seeds of growth, even when the results may not be visible for years to come. Listeners will find that this conversation is a reflection on how practicing aloha in real, imperfect circumstances is how positive change can take root. Mahalo for tuning in! Episode Highlights 01:07 Home: Waimea, Kauai 01:53 Why education matters 05:18 From engineering to teaching 08:11 Seeds that grow later 10:53 Cultural revival through games 14:49 Finding Foundations of Aloha 16:36 Intuitive nudges 18:12 Story finding and a lei lesson 26:21 Aloha in action role models 30:31 Practicing aloha in systems 33:27 Hopes for abundance in Hawaii

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What is Above the Sides?

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates bi-weekly.

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