Adopting Zero Trust offers an ongoing conversation that elevates cybersecurity conversations that encourages you to rethink how you build strategies, defend against threat actors, and implement new technology. We go beyond the millions in marketing budgets fueled by VCs, and chat with practitioners like you who want to make a difference (or hack the planet, which ever happens first).
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As organizations push return-to-office (RTO) mandates and chase efficiency, many security teams are quietly accumulating debt they don’t know how to unwind.
In this episode, we are joined by Lea Cure Thorpe and Kayne McGladrey to unpack the less-discussed consequences of recent security decisions: RTO exposure, endpoint blind spots, tooling overload, analyst burnout, and the slow erosion of junior talent (thanks AI).
Rather than going too crazy on hot takes and obvious trends, we focus in on operational reality, business risk, and what security leaders need to confront before these issues compound further.
Where to Skim
02:00 | Is the perimeter really dead?
06:30 | RTO fallout and the return of local network risk
12:30 | Endpoint sprawl, dirty devices, and SOC fatigue
18:30 | Cloud tooling, visibility gaps, and false assurances
26:00 | AI adoption: risk appetite vs. reality
33:30 | Identity, agentic AI, and trust amplification risk
41:00 | Workforce erosion and the efficiency trap
50:30 | The business math CISOs can’t avoid
58:30 | Career development, communication, and relevance
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11 Dec 2025
Whisper Leak: How Encrypted AI Chats Still Leak Conversation Topics
In this episode, we break down Whisper Leak, a newly disclosed side-channel issue affecting encrypted LLM communications. JBO explains how attackers can infer conversation topics using packet size and timing metadata without breaking encryption. The discussion covers how the research team discovered the issue, how vendors (including Microsoft and OpenAI) mitigated it, and what it means for the future of secure AI systems.
01:30 – What Whisper Leak Actually Is02:30 – Understanding Side-Channel Attacks04:00 – Why LLMs Are Uniquely Vulnerable08:00 – Stream Ciphers vs Block Ciphers13:30 – “Did You Break Encryption?” Clearing Up Misconceptions16:00 – Fixes & Mitigations Across LLM Vendors18:30 – Why Some Vendors Were More Vulnerable Than Others20:00 – Could High-End Adversaries Still Pull This Off?24:00 – How API Users Can Protect Themselves25:00 – Designing LLM Systems with Side Channels in Mind
Guests: Jonathan (JBO) Bar Or, Principal Security Researcher, Microsoft Threat Intelligence, who just joined CrowdStrike
Hosts: Elliot Volkman & Neal Dennis
17 Apr 2025
How Critical Infrastructure Leaders Are Rethinking Cybersecurity
In this episode of Adopting Zero Trust, hosts Elliot Volkman and Neal Dennis discuss critical infrastructure security with expert guest Ian Branson, Vice President of Global Industrial Cybersecurity at Black and Veatch.
The discussion centers around the philosophical and strategic approaches to handling incidents and breaches, especially in the operational technology (OT) realm. Branson highlights the importance of understanding what needs protection, the integration of IT and OT security, and the crucial role of threat intelligence. They also explore the evolving need for converging physical and digital security data to manage risks effectively.
01:37 Starting Point for Protecting Critical Infrastructure
04:52 Funding and Resource Allocation for Cybersecurity
10:57 Threat Intelligence and Incident Response
16:25 IT and OT Convergence
23:47 Discussing Employee and Equipment Management
26:19 Integrating Physical and Cyber Security
34:39 Proactive Security Measures in New Constructions
40:46 Balancing Rapid Response and Availability
Reach and audience
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YouTube views
3,139
Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
Apple Podcasts (US)
5.0 / 5
4 ratings
Spotify
5.0 / 5
3 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 42 / 100
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Quality
29
Social presence
0
YouTube
68
Engagement
68
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