This podcast explores all aspects of outdoor and adventure therapy. From research and interventions to education and careers, if it's related to outdoor therapies, you'll hear about it here! The podcast will highlight a different topic within outdoor and adventure therapy, including education, research, supervision, ethics, and more. Occasionally, we will interview field experts to gain insights from their knowledge and experience. Outdoor and adventure therapy practitioners and scholars, Dr. Will Dobud and Dr. Daniel Cavanaugh, host the podcast.
Episode 33 - Kids These Days with Nevin Harper & Will Dobud
Will Dobud and Nevin Harper have a new book coming out on the 30th of September called Kids These Days: Understanding and Supporting Youth Mental Health. Daniel turned the podcast around and interviewed Will and Nevin on this discussion about the new book and why outdoor therapy enthusiasts may be interested.
Kids These Days was endorsed by trauma-expert Dr. Bruce Perry who "highly recommended" the book and advocate for safer therapeutic programs, Paris Hilton, who called it a "protest book" and a "must read."
You can preorder the book on Amazon here (https://www.amazon.com/Kids-These-Days-Understanding-Supporting/dp/1774060221/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1XJMG4EUGTFQH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Ub3RUxM3n1flmjsztZZFzg.8ALCmenlIEJU3cOsJPYXSsz2q8qmeKYrlXgPSMfgt4c&dib_tag=se&keywords=kids+these+days+understanding+and+supporting+youth+mental+health&qid=1740883828&sprefix=kids+these+days+understanding+and+supporting+youth+mental+heal%2Caps%2C324&sr=8-1) or listen to the audiobook narrated by Tim Morgan on Audible.
To learn more about the book, visit www.kidsthesedaysbook.com (www.kidsthesedaysbook.com).
Thanks for your ongoing support!
27 Sept 2025
Episode 31 - Creating a Pivot Point with Matt Nannis
If you've been lucky enough to visit to Asheville, North Carolina, you know how special that place is. Matt Nannis moved to Asheville, NC in 2013 realized quite quickly that he never wanted to leave.
In this episode, Daniel and Will talk with Matt about all things related to starting PIVOTPoint WNC. This is an innovative therapeutic adventure company that harnesses the power of nature to drive transformation. One important theme is how learning about the local area, the culture, the regulations, and land-use policies can really help to create a thriving and sustainable organization...AND...meet good people who can support your work along the way!
Matt strives to bring Mary Oliver’s Instructions for Living a Life to others: “Pay attention. Be astonished. Tell about it.”
Useful Links
PIVOTPoint WNC (https://pivotpointwnc.org/)
Matt's Interview on Stories From The Field (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-adventure-therapy-to-disaster-relief-pivotpoints/id1440862416?i=1000675752874)
Matt's Interview on Nature Untold (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-your-pivot-point/id1546099794?i=1000595018739)
In early September, Will hosted his annual Outdoor Therapy Series for Social Sciences Week. You can find the recordings and recordings from previous years here (https://www.outdoortherapycentre.com/socialsciencesweek.html). That's more than 30 hours of free presentations from experts in the outdoor therapy universe.
16 Sept 2025
Episode 30 - Your New Somatic Guide: Katie Asmus
This is the best! A great conversation with Katie Asmus!
Katie Asmus is a Somatic and Nature-Based Psychotherapist. With a Master’s degree in Somatic Psychology, over 30 years of leading individuals and group programs out in nature, and a lifetime of apprenticing to ceremony and rites of passage, Katie says the essence of her work is normalizing, celebrating, and bringing compassion to what it means to be human.
For the past 20 years, alongside maintaining a private psychotherapy practice, she has taught graduate students at Naropa University and Prescott College in the areas of Somatic and Nature-based Therapies. In addition, through the Somatic Wilderness Therapy Institute (and in collaboration with other inspiring colleagues), she created and facilitates both online and in-person workshops and trainings in Somatic Trauma work, Ceremony & Rites of Passage facilitation, as well as in a wide variety of wilderness, adventure, and nature-based therapy skills. Having sat with thousands of people from around the world and from all walks of life, Katie is a tender of the thresholds and strongly believes in the necessity of following our deepest longing while simultaneously knowing and feeling our interconnection and belonging to the greater web of life.
Relevant Links
Somatic Nature Therapy Institute (https://www.somaticnaturetherapy.com/)
More About Katie (https://www.somaticnaturetherapy.com/about-katie-asmus)
Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/katie-asmus-boulder-co/486362)
LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-asmus-ma-lpc-bmp-8618b122)
Katie on Will White's Stories from the Field (https://storiesfromthefield.libsyn.com/263-the-rise-of-nature-based-therapy-a-conversation-with-katie-asmus)
Katie on The Awakened Therapist (https://youtu.be/Z7fd_zgR3iI?si=2kGWrZz9-sH07gbB)
Katie on Therapy in the Great Outdoors (https://www.therapyinthegreatoutdoors.com/podcast)
More Ways to Connect
Social Sciences Week Outdoor Therapy Series 2025 (https://www.outdoortherapycentre.com/socialsciencesweek.html)
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