A music podcast about songwriting, albums, and whatnot hosted by Justin Cox. Seasons about Bright Eyes, Jackson Browne, and Against Me! are in this feed, plus other interviews.
Support: patreon.com/afterthedeluge Follow: twitter.com/routinelayup

by Justin Cox

A music podcast about songwriting, albums, and whatnot hosted by Justin Cox. Seasons about Bright Eyes, Jackson Browne, and Against Me! are in this feed, plus other interviews. Support: patreon.com/afterthedeluge Follow: twitter.com/routinelayup
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February 16, 2026
<p>The original Jackson Browne interview just got hit with a c*pyright strike, so here's a video version without the song clips. Originally aired in 2023. </p><p>Our guest on the Season One finale is Jackson Browne (!) and we talk about his whole career, from writing "These Days" at 16 up to his latest record, Downhill From Everywhere. Reach me at delugepodcast@gmail.com.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/16831?view=condensed" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>LISTEN TO THE FULL JACKSON BROWNE SEASON</strong></a></p><p>https://www.patreon.com/collection/16831</p><p><br></p><p>2:00 - The Dreamer </p><p>7:20 - “I can’t write a song that simple” </p><p>10:00 - “Somebody’s Baby” & simple songs </p><p>13:00 - Describing life to yourself is a cool job </p><p>16:45 - The ocean is downhill from everywhere </p><p>20:00 - Sylvia Earle and the Blue Heart of the planet </p><p>23:00 - "We need the ocean to survive"</p><p>22:45 - Coming down from acid and getting a song idea on the freeway </p><p>32:00 - Jamming with Greg Copeland and Greg Leisz </p><p>36:00 - The invaluable nature of session musicians (and how Jackson treats them) </p><p>41:45 - Me sharing an dorky story about a Jackson Browne show </p><p>43:25 - Playing acoustic and why have 10 guitars up there </p><p>49:30 - Are guitar solos dead? </p><p>52:45 - On Phoebe Bridgers, Dawes, Tal Wilkenfeld, and other young artists </p><p>54:20 - The last lines of "These Days" explained</p>

January 18, 2026
<p>Jonathan Bernstein is a Senior Research Editor for Rolling Stone and author of the new book <strong>What Do You Do When You’re Lonesome?</strong> — the authorized biography of Justin Townes Earle. <a href="https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/jonathan-bernstein/what-do-you-do-when-youre-lonesome/9780306833274/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">You can buy it now</a>. </p><p>We talk about the night we learned of Justin's death, songs about heroin and crack, writing descriptively about finger picking, Justin made his father the villain, the last quarter-century of roots music, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, fashion, self-sabotage, Chicago, "Movin' On," writing a book about someone who bends the truth and/or lies, Justin's childhood, the post-CD-pre-streaming era, "Mama's Eyes," and finally Jonathan's favorite JTE record. </p><p><strong>Get the book! </strong>https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/jonathan-bernstein/what-do-you-do-when-youre-lonesome/9780306833274/</p><p>--</p><p>x.com/routinelayup</p><p>x.com/jonbern</p>

December 3, 2025
<p>In which I ramble for 45 mins about podcast episodes getting deleted, the idea of fair use, and whether I'll make another season of this show. Plus some music pods I've enjoyed this year. </p><p><strong>-</strong></p><p><strong>DELETED EPISODES:</strong> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/afterthedeluge" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.patreon.com/afterthedeluge</a></p><p><strong>CONTACT:</strong> delugepodcast@gmail.com</p><p><strong>ME: </strong>Justin Cox / @routinelayup</p><p><br></p>
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A music podcast about songwriting, albums, and whatnot hosted by Justin Cox. Seasons about Bright Eyes, Jackson Browne, and Against Me! are in this feed, plus other interviews.
Support: patreon.com/afterthedeluge Follow: twitter.com/routinelayup
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