The AFTER THE END research project is an eight-year collaboration bringing together researchers from around the world. Its principal focus is what happens in the aftermaths of global health crises, but what do endings look like in other contexts? Do cultural perspectives influence our perception of time? Does time exist?
In this series, presented by PATRICIA KINGORI, Professor of Global Health Ethics at the UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD and lead investigator for AFTER THE END, we explore endings and their aftermaths - who decides when an ‘end’ has been reached, whether ‘the end’ for one person is the end for everybody, and what happens after these so-called ends?
The series grew out of the AFTER THE END launch workshop in Oxford in July 2024. PATRICIA KINGORI had brought together a group of people from very different disciplines – all experts in their own fields – to explore the concept of endings. The discussions were fascinating and thought-provoking, and this podcast series captures some of them.
We hope you enjoy listening.
This work was supported by the Wellcome Trust, 225238/Z/22/Z
In this final episode of the podcast series After the End, Lukas Engelmann and Bobbie Farsides join Patricia Kingori for an exploration of ethics and endings in the context of public health. In this episode of the After the End podcast series, epidemiologist Lukas Engelmann from the University of Edinburgh and Bobbie Farsides, Emeritus Professor of the Brighton and Sussex Medical School find common ground on ethics and endings in public health, asking “what or who defines and ending?”.
Through the Infected Blood Inquiry, and the history of epidemic modelling, they discuss what they see as the value of the beginning, middle, end narrative and what that means for those infected and affected.
23 Mar 2026
13: Crisis modelling
In this episode of the After the End podcast series, epidemiologist Lukas Engelmann from the University of Edinburgh asks ‘when can an epidemic be declared over?' In this episode of the After the End podcast series, we hear from epidemiologist Lukas Engelmann from the University of Edinburgh on infectious disease modelling, and when and if an epidemic or pandemic can be said to be ‘over’.
We explore the shift from looking through the lens of epidemics at human history, to epidemic modelling creating scenarios of how the future might unfold and how this modelling introduces a very different way of thinking about time.
9 Mar 2026
12: Can an Inquiry Heal?
In this episode of the After the End podcast series, we explore through the context of the Infected Blood Inquiry, the possibility of public inquiries helping people to bring to an end trauma. In this episode of the After the End podcast series, Bobbie Farsides, Emeritus Professor of Clinical and Biomedical Ethics at Brighton and Sussex Medical School, shares her insights on ethics and endings in the context of the Infected Blood Inquiry.
In her role within the inquiry of co-chair of the Expert Group on Medical Ethics, Bobbie Farsides discusses the process of the inquiry that addressed issues that go back decades in one of the UK’s biggest medical scandals. What happens after these so-called endings? Is ‘the end’ for one person the end for everybody?
25 Feb 2026
11: Peace without Peace
In this episode of the podcast series After the End, Patricia Kingori is joined by Riccardo Labianco and Patricia Daley for a discussion on endings in times of conflict. Patricia Kingori is in conversation with Riccardo Labianco from the Convention on Cluster Munitions and previously Mines Advisory Group and Patricia Daley, Professor of the Human Geography of Africa at the University of Oxford. Drawing on Daley’s research on political violence, and war and peace in Central Africa and Labianco’s experience in the sector of humanitarian disarmament the discussion moves from the dual goals of humanitarian disarmament to ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ peace, and what a peace agreement means at the local level for communities.
9 Feb 2026
10: Remnants of War
In this episode of the podcast series After the End, we hear from lawyer Riccardo Labianco on dealing with the explosive remnants of war. Riccardo Labianco from the Convention on Cluster Munitions and previously Mines Advisory Group explores with different examples and referencing the institutional and legal architecture of humanitarian disarmament, the reality of enduring risks and potential harm left beyond declarations of completion. When the active hostilities of a conflict might be declared as finished, it’s not the end of the potential harm.
23 Jan 2026
9: Shifting Perspectives
Patricia Kingori is with Danya Carroll and Alice Parrinello for an exploration of Indigenous and Western perspectives on time. In this episode of the After the End podcast series, sociologist Patricia Kingori is in conversation with Danya Carroll, Indigenous Scholar and Public Health Practitioner, and Alice Parrinello, University of Toronto, for an exploration of Indigenous and Western perspectives on time, and the treatment of endings in films related to climate change and the colonial era.
13 Jan 2026
8: Film Time
Alice Parrinello traces the different attitudes towards endings and aftermaths in films and how this has shifted over time. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, we hear from Alice Parrinello at the University of Toronto on the treatment of endings in films related to climate change and the colonial era.
18 Dec 2025
7: How Do We Tell the Time?
Sylvia Kokunda shares the Batwa perspective on time and the challenges her people have faced in adapting to a very different culture since they were removed from their ancestral forest homes in the 1990s. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, we hear more about Indigenous perspectives on time from Sylvia Kokunda, Co-founder of the Action for Batwa Empowerment Group in Uganda. Sylvia shares the Batwa perspective on time and the challenges her people have faced in adapting to a very different culture since they were removed from their ancestral forest homes in the 1990s.
18 Dec 2025
6: Indigenous Time
Danya Carroll, indigenous scholar and public health practitioner, reflects on living with different world views, linear time and cyclical time and what we leave for future generations. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, we hear from Danya Carroll, a member of the Navajo and White Mountain Apache Tribes, and a post-doc in the School of Medicine and Public Health at Western University, Canada. Danya shares her experiences of living between two cultures with very different concepts of time, and how her tribes are dealing with climate change.
24 Nov 2025
5: Time, Mortality, and the Immortal Jellyfish
In this episode of the podcast series After the End, Patricia Kingori, Miranda Lowe, Felix Flicker and Martin O'Brien come together for a discussion on time, mortality and immortality. Sociologist Patricia Kingori brings together the ideas on time, mortality and immortality of museum curator and jellyfish fan Miranda Lowe, theoretical physicist Felix Flicker, and performance artist and zombie Martin O’Brien.
10 Nov 2025
4: Living in Zombie Time – Martin O’Brien
What is it like to live in Zombie Time? Performance artist Martin O’Brien opens the conversation on living beyond predicted life expectancy in what he calls ‘zombie time’. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, we hear from performance artist Martin O’Brien from Queen Mary University, London on living a different temporal experience and the influence on his performance art.
27 Oct 2025
3: Does Time Exist – Felix Flicker
Does time exist? Theoretical physicist Felix Flicker from the University of Bristol explores whether time exists and living after the end of the universe. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, Felix Flicker challenges our assumptions about time, exploring relativity, consciousness, and the possibility that we’re living after the end of the universe.
23 Oct 2025
2: The Immortal Jellyfish – Miranda Lowe
The Jellyfish that refuse to die. MIRANDA LOWE CBE, a principal curator in the Department of Life Sciences at the NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM in LONDON, introduces us to the extraordinary world of the immortal jellyfish. In this episode of the podcast series After the End, Miranda Lowe of the Natural History Museum explores the immortal jellyfish and what it teaches us about cyclical time, scientific legacy, and the fragility of life.
23 Oct 2025
1: Introduction – Patricia Kingori
Who decides when it’s over? In this episode of the podcast series After the End, Professor Patricia Kingori introduces the project and sets the stage for what’s to come. As the opening episode of the series, this episode unveils an eight-year global research collaboration exploring the politics of endings and their aftermaths. From global health crises to cultural transitions, Prof Kingori asks: who gets to declare an ending—and what happens next?
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