AGENT STATE is a show about AI, crypto, and the autonomous systems that will design our future.
Hosted by Karan Karia and Federico Ulfo, we bring you experts from the cutting edge of the tech world to show you the future. Join us as we build the bridge to AGI!
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Akshit, Co-Founder of Epoch Protocol, and Raghav “RG”, Core Contributor to Reppo, discuss crypto incentives and autonomous AI agents with Karan and Fed in an interview about the intersection of crypto and AI.
3 Apr 2025
David Minarsch - Founder of OLAS & Valory
AGENT STATE is a show about AI, crypto, and the autonomous systems that will design our future.
Hosted by Karan Karia and Federico Ulfo, we bring you experts from the cutting edge of the tech world to show you the future. Join us as we build the bridge to AGI.
Timestamps:
(0:27) Introduction to David, core contributor at OLAS and founder of Valory
(2:53) David's journey building agents for over six years, from game theory to crypto AI
(6:42) Defining agents: software systems with inputs, internal state, goals, and action capabilities
(11:13) Evolution of agent models - from specialized agents to large language models
(17:42) Two ways to build agents: rules-based core with model periphery vs. model-driven core
(22:56) Challenges of agents as independent beings vs. agents as controllable products
(27:18) Importance of "owning your weights" and "owning your keys" in the AI and crypto space
(34:42) The founding story of OLAS: from decentralized off-chain services to user-owned agents
(42:24) The launch of Pear - an agent app store with integrated wallet architecture
(47:48) Solving wallet delegation problems using a nested smart account structure
(52:56) Cross-chain compatibility plans for the OLAS ecosystem and DeFi agents
(57:59) Legal implications and regulatory considerations for agent systems
(1:09:23) The importance of decentralization and competition in AI adoption and development
(1:11:08) The need to build complete products rather than getting distracted by new models
20 Feb 2025
AI Agents & Prediction Markets with Nader Dabit (Eigen Labs) & Trent McConaghy (Ocean Protocol)
AGENT STATE is a show about AI, crypto, and the autonomous systems that will design our future.
Hosted by Karan Karia and Federico Ulfo, we bring you experts from the cutting edge of the tech world to show you the future. Join us as we build the bridge to AGI!
Today's guests are Nader Dabit and Trent McConaghy. Nader leads Developer Relations for Eigen Labs and Trent is the founder of Ocean Protocol.
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