AI Sidebar

About AI Sidebar

At the intersection of AI and law, the ground is shifting faster than almost anyone can keep up with. Hosted by Irene Liu of Stanford Law School’s AI Initiative, AI Sidebar brings together leading academics, technologists, policymakers, lawyers, and industry leaders to unpack where AI is headed and what it means for law, business, society, and all of us. From the heart of the Bay Area, where AI is being built, debated, and put to the test, the show cuts through the noise to unpack the biggest developments shaping law, business, society, and all of us. Each episode asks the questions that matter: Who is accountable when AI calls the shots, how should we regulate powerful new tools, and what skills will tomorrow’s lawyers need? AI Sidebar is a clear, timely guide to how AI is reshaping the law and how the law may shape the future of AI.

Publisher

Stanford Law School, Stanford Law AI Initiative

Category

government · society & culture · technology

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

15 Jun 2026

Latest episode

12 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

3 of 11 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   12 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Jason Boehmig on Building AGI for Law

   Host Jason Boehmig interviews legal tech innovator Jason Boehmig about evolving AI-native tools and the future of AGI in law.

2. 

   28 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Global Regulation, AI Safety, and Preparing for AGI

   Irene Liu interviews Tom Lue, Google DeepMind's VP of Frontier AI Global Affairs, about navigating global AI regulation, safety, and preparing for AGI's societal impact.

3. 

   14 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   How AI Is Reshaping Legal Hiring, Law Firm Roles, and In-House Careers

   How is AI changing the legal hiring market, and what do lawyers need to do to stay competitive? In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Anna Gorodetsky, a partner at Major, Lindsey & Africa who oversees in-house counsel recruiting, about what law firms and legal departments are looking for in the age of AI. Gorodetsky shares what she is seeing in the market, from new AI innovation roles at law firms to the pressure on in-house teams to do more with technology. Irene and Anna also discuss the practical AI experience employers increasingly expect, what practicing lawyers and law students can do to stand out, and why judgment, communication, trust, and business context remain central to great lawyering. Link List: Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Connect with Anna Gorodetsky (https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-gorodetsky/) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:03) The Legal Hiring Market in the Age of AI (00:03:29) Layoffs, Freezes, and Legal Team Restructuring (00:05:31) Pressure on In-House Teams (00:07:30) The Rise of the “Lawyer Plus” Profile (00:08:49) AI Skills and Compensation (00:11:28) What Have You Built With AI? (00:14:22) AI in the Interview Process (00:16:27) How Lawyers Can Stay Competitive (00:19:48) New AI Roles at Law Firms (00:21:43) Where Firms Are Finding AI Talent (00:24:30) What AI Innovation Leaders Need to Succeed (00:26:59) Preparing Law Students for an AI-Driven Market (00:29:26) What Makes Top Candidates Stand Out (00:32:20) How Candidates Can Become More Marketable (00:34:53) The Future of Legal Hiring (00:38:08) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

4. 

   31 Aug 2026

   Why Open Source AI Is Having Its Moment, and What Legal Leaders Need to Know

   What does open source AI really mean, why does it matter, and what should legal and business leaders be thinking about as the landscape continues to evolve? In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Heather Meeker, an internationally recognized open source software licensing expert, partner at TechLaw Partners, co-founder of Chinstrap Community, and author of Open Source for Business. Meeker explains why open source AI is harder to define than open source software, how open weights differ from truly open models, and why that distinction matters for lawyers advising companies on how these tools can be used. Irene and Heather also explore what legal and business leaders should know as open weight models enter organizations, from licensing and governance to security, transparency, and public trust. Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Connect with Heather Meeker (https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathermeeker/) Pre Order your copy of Open Source for Babies (https://www.amazon.com/Open-Source-Babies-Heather-Meeker/dp/B0H9DLDHPW/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6zOlAfaDDE3HfazFkUwW-w.C8zGuSNoGjtNNi7tdEEtpMwOIAeQ9b1B8Jr2GQtQaDg&dib_tag=se&keywords=Open+Source+for+Babies+Heather+Meeker&qid=1787962754&sr=8-1) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:14) What Does Open Source AI Mean? (00:05:52) Open Source vs. Open Weights (00:07:38) Why Open Source AI Is Having Its Moment (00:09:44) Are Any AI Models Truly Open Source? (00:10:25) Chinese Models and the Competitive Landscape (00:11:49) Governing Open Weights in Organizations (00:14:08) Compliance Tools and Shadow AI (00:15:25) How Legal Teams Can Help, Not Block (00:17:06) Security and Governance for Chinese Models (00:19:00) Why Legal and IT Need to Work Together (00:20:24) Sharing AI Best Practices (00:21:21) The Open Weights Policy Debate (00:23:15) Are Open Models Riskier? (00:25:14) Transparency, Safety, and Linus’s Law (00:27:27) The Regulatory Landscape (00:30:35) Open Source for Babies (00:33:11) How Lawyers Can Keep Up (00:37:21) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

5. 

   17 Aug 2026

   AI-Native, Lawyer-Centered: Building the Law Firm of the Future

   What does it take to build a good AI-native law firm when the goal is not just efficiency, but giving lawyers more leverage, more agency, and more space for the human judgement at the heart of legal work? In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Ryan Daniels, co-founder and CEO of Crosby AI and a Stanford Law School alum, about what he’s learned building an AI-native law firm focused on commercial contracts. Daniels explains what “AI-native” means in practice, how Crosby differs from both a traditional law firm and a legal tech company, and why it remains, at its core, a law firm. Irene and Ryan also explore how AI can take on repetitive legal work, reshape the law firm business model, and make this an especially exciting time for lawyers who want to innovate. Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Connect with Ryan Daniels (https://www.linkedin.com/in/crosbyryan/) Learn more about Crosby (http://crosby.ai) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:00:53) What Is an AI-Native Law Firm? (00:02:39) Why Build a Law Firm Instead of Legal Tech? (00:03:33) Why Commercial Contracts? (00:04:54) Pricing by Deal, Not by Hour (00:06:34) Measuring Human Review Time (00:07:46) Designing AI Around Lawyers (00:10:44) Keeping Lawyers in Control (00:12:22) Building Empathy Between Engineers and Lawyers (00:14:53) Lawyers, Engineers, and the Identity of an AI-Native Firm (00:16:31) Finding Lawyers for a New Model (00:18:15) Why Great Lawyers May Become More Valuable (00:19:50) Why Clients Try Crosby (00:20:53) The Future of AI-Native Law Firms (00:21:37) Defining Quality in Legal AI (00:22:30) Why This Is an Exciting Time to Build (00:23:18) Advice for Lawyers and Law Students (00:25:05) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

6. 

   3 Aug 2026

   How Agentic AI Is Redefining the Role of the Product Counsel

   For product lawyers, the agentic era is changing more than the tools; it is changing how products are built, how risks surface, and how legal advice reaches the business. And who better to explore that shift than the creator of Claude for Legal and associate general counsel at Anthropic, Mark Pike. Drawing on his experience at Slack and Anthropic, Pike offers a firsthand look at what product counseling requires when legal teams are advising not just on AI, but alongside it. Irene and Mark explore how lawyers can build trust with product and engineering teams, why technical curiosity matters, and how tools like Claude for Legal are reshaping the way legal guidance is created, delivered, and scaled. The conversation also points to a broader question for the profession: whether AI will reduce legal work or expand the universe of legal questions that teams are able to see and address. Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Connect with Mark Pike (https://www.linkedin.com/in/markpike/) Explore Claude for Legal on GitHub (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-for-legal) Watch Mark's Presentation at Stanford (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9FDtSx0sW4) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:15) How Product Counseling Has Changed (00:03:17) From Pat Signals to AI Agents (00:04:38) Product Counseling in the Agentic Era (00:06:41) The Product Lawyer as Miniature GC (00:08:09) Getting Closer to the Work (00:09:39) What Happens When Everyone Is a Builder? (00:12:51) Guardrails, Automation, and Human Judgment (00:15:13) Training Product Teams With Better Tools (00:16:38) Making Legal Training Memorable (00:19:05) Knowing When to Call in Experts (00:20:42) Using AI to Understand New Legal Issues (00:22:23) Working With Outside Counsel in the AI Era (00:23:27) Technical Fluency for Product Lawyers (00:25:13) Learning by Building (00:29:16) Managing AI Agents (00:31:53) Will AI Create More Legal Work? (00:33:43) What Comes Next for Claude for Legal (00:35:06) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

7. 

   20 Jul 2026

   When AI Answers Beat Law Professors: What It Means for Lawyers and Law Schools

   What does it mean for quality, legal expertise, and judgment when law professors actually prefer AI answers over answers written by other law professors in a blind study? In this episode of AI Sidebar, Irene Liu talks with Stanford Law Professor Julian Nyarko, faculty director of liftlab and co-director of Stanford Law’s AI Initiative, about his recent study examining how legal experts evaluate AI-generated work. Nyarko explains what the study reveals, why its findings matter for both legal education and practice, and how rigorous research can help the profession determine when AI performs well, when it falls short, and when it should be trusted. He also discusses how liftlab is evaluating AI across legal services, research, and education, including when AI tutors can support student learning and when they may get in the way. Together, they explore how this research is shaping Stanford Law’s approach to AI in the classroom, from tutoring tools to simulated negotiations, and what it may mean for the future of legal expertise and education. Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Julian Nyarko Stanford Profile (https://law.stanford.edu/julian-nyarko/) Learn more about liftlab (https://law.stanford.edu/liftlab/) “Law Professors Prefer AI Over Peer Answers” (https://law.stanford.edu/publications/law-professors-prefer-ai-over-peer-answers/) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:00:55) What Is liftlab? (00:02:41) The Four Core Pillars of liftlab (00:07:39) The Art of Contracts (00:10:25) How liftlab uses AI (00:13:54) The Study: “Law Professors Prefer AI Over Peer Answers” (00:18:56) AI Tutors in Legal Education (00:21:52) Potential Applications of the Findings (00:23:02) Study Modifications (00:24:43) Classroom Adaptation of the Study (00:28:33) Underrated & Overhyped Uses of AI in Law (00:33:15) Judgment, Lawyers, and the Future of AI (00:34:48) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

8. 

   6 Jul 2026

   Legal Engineers: The New AI Role Reshaping Law

   Legal teams are not just adopting AI tools, they need to reimagine the work; who should do the work, how it should be done, and what should be redesigned entirely. In this episode, host Irene Liu sits down with Mary O’Carroll, CEO of LegalEng Consulting Group and a longtime leader in legal operations and legal technology, to discuss legal ‘rightsourcing’ in the age of AI. Drawing on her experience across Google, Ironclad, law firms, legal tech companies, and consulting, O’Carroll explains why buying AI tools is only the beginning, and why the real opportunity lies in reimagining legal work itself. Together, they explore the shift from legal operations to legal engineering, the growing demand for legal solutions engineers and forward deployed engineers, and the talent gap facing in-house teams, law firms, and AI legal tech companies as they rethink how legal services are delivered. Learn more about the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/ai-initiative/) Irene Liu, Executive Director of the Stanford Law School AI Initiative (https://law.stanford.edu/irene-liu/) Connect with Mary O'Carroll (https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryshenocarroll/) LegalEng Consulting Group (https://www.lecg.com/) Chapters: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:00:59) The Evolution of Legal Operations (00:03:12) Why Buying AI Tools Is Only the Beginning (00:04:03) From Acceleration to Reimagining Work (00:06:18) Reengineering Legal Workflows (00:09:42) What Legal Engineering Really Means (00:12:20) Where Legal Engineers Fit (00:13:52) The Rise of Forward Deployed Engineers (00:15:14) The Legal Solutions Engineer (00:17:00) Preparing the Next Generation of Legal Talent (00:18:35) Changing How Large Organizations Work (00:23:04) Practical First Steps for Legal Teams (00:26:17) Why Alignment Comes Before Automation (00:28:10) How Law Firms Should Invest in AI (00:32:45) Where to Invest First (00:36:16) Conclusion ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

9. 

   29 Jun 2026

   CLO playbook: Leading through AI and Corporate Transformation

   April Miller Boise shares how CLOs can lead AI transformation with strategy, discipline, and practical change management.

10. 

    22 Jun 2026

    Law Schools in the Age of AI

    Dean George Triantis explains how Stanford Law is preparing students for lawyering in the age of AI.

11. 

    15 Jun 2026

    AI Sidebar Trailer

    At the intersection of AI and law, the ground is shifting faster than almost anyone can keep up with. Hosted by Irene Liu of Stanford Law School’s AI Initiative, AI Sidebar brings together leading academics, technologists, policymakers, lawyers, and industry leaders to unpack where AI is headed and what it means for law, business, society, and all of us. From the heart of the Bay Area, where AI is being built, debated, and put to the test, the show cuts through the noise to unpack the biggest developments shaping law, business, society, and all of us. Each episode asks the questions that matter: Who is accountable when AI calls the shots, how should we regulate powerful new tools, and what skills will tomorrow’s lawyers need? AI Sidebar is a clear, timely guide to how AI is reshaping the law and how the law may shape the future of AI. Join us every other Monday for AI Sidebar, from Stanford Law School, available on all listening platforms. Subscribe, share, and stay informed. ********************** Share AI Sidebar with your favorite lawyer friend — or anyone trying to keep up with where AI and law are headed. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Jason Boehmig on Building AGI for Law

Published 12 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] This is not designed to be an autonomous tool. thing that's just out there producing a filing and you find out about it after it's pinged the court about it. This is designed to assist the human in the practice of law. And something that I am thinking a lot about is how can we make the human's job of checking the machine easier? So I think you can expect to see some things from us in the future that will really help increase confidence in what the machine is doing and allow for easier double checking of what the machine does. I think that that is like a really important design criteria in the design of legal systems is how do you build that trust with the end user. […]

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