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We aren’t your therapists, but with our wild takes on pop culture, sports, and the “piping hot” local or “organic” tea, we might as well be. Consider this your official invitation to the conversations that happen at 2 AM, or after a round of drinks, or ULTIMATELY - you weren’t supposed to overhear.
and THAT’s another couple of gays with a pod
Look, we know. The world probably didn’t need two more queer men with microphones, but after the thousandth time we said, “Man, if we would have recorded that, it would’ve been a goldmine,” we realized we were doing the public a disservice.
So... we finally hit record.
and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter II: Death Becomes Us
💀🕯️ Death. The one thing we all have in common, yet somehow nobody wants to talk about it. Well, naturally, JJ and Jed are going there. In Chapter II of our AFTER DARK series, we're getting a little morbid, a little philosophical, and probably a little inappropriate as we dive headfirst into life's most inevitable mystery: death. From our biggest fears surrounding death and what we think happens after our final breath to funeral traditions, grief, ghosts, and the possibility of an afterlife, ...
10 Oct 2026
and THAT's a Midnight Convo: 🌙 Chapter I: Very Superstitious
and THAT’s a MIDNIGHT Convo: an AFTER DARK Series Something wicked this way comes… and we’re knocking on wood that it’s not us. 🔮 The clock has struck midnight, the candles are lit, and The Group Chat is about to get a little… superstitious. In the first chapter of our AFTER DARK Series, John and Jed are tempting fate, testing their luck, and asking the age-old question: If you don't believe in superstitions, why the hell are you still afraid to break them? From black cats and broken mirrors ...
30 Sept 2026
Ep 16: and THAT's not THAT deep... or is it?
Is it actually that deep… or did we just turn a minor inconvenience into a full emotional investigation? This week on and THAT’s a pod convo, we’re diving into relationships, friendships, and the everyday situations that leave us asking: “Is it that deep?” An unanswered text, a canceled plan, a shift in someone’s energy—sometimes it’s nothing, and sometimes “nothing” starts looking a little personal. Why do some of us find meaning in every little thing while others seemingly couldn’t care les...
23 Sept 2026
Ep 15: and THAT's and, but, or BULLSHIT!
You can miss them AND never want them back. You can love your job AND fucking hate going to work. You can be happy for your friend AND jealous as hell. You can understand why someone hurt you AND still not forgive them. Two things can be true at once—and somehow, that makes everything messier. This week, John and Jed are getting comfortable in the gray area. We’re talking relationships, friendships, family, work, jealousy, accountability, changing your mind, and all those conflicting feelings...
3 Sept 2026
Ep. 14: and THAT’s some sibling shit
Nobody knows how to love you, expose you, humble you, and piss you the fuck off quite like a sibling. This week, we’re getting into some sibling shit—the favorite child allegations, childhood grudges that somehow survived into adulthood, birth-order bullshit, sibling rivalry, and the mystery of how two people can grow up in the SAME house and remember completely different childhoods. But then we grew up…and somehow the drama grew up with us. Partners enter the family. Money gets weird. Kids c...
21 Aug 2026
Ep 13: and That's a School Survival Guide
Class is officially back in session—and unfortunately, we have thoughts. This week, John Jacob and Jed are going back to school… kind of. We’re talking first-day fits, cafeteria politics, the school lunches that had absolutely no business being that good, the teachers we loved (and the ones we’re apparently STILL holding grudges against), and whether adult us would even survive one full day back in the classroom. But somewhere between school nostalgia and questionable teenage decisions, we ge...
12 Aug 2026
Ep 12: and THAT’s the ICK. 🤢
You know the feeling. Everything is going great, the attraction is there, and then they do one tiny thing and suddenly… you can never look at them the same way again. But what actually IS an ick? And more importantly, when did we start confusing icks with actual red flags? This week, Jed and John Jacob dive into the wonderfully irrational world of the ick: where they come from, whether they're actually trying to tell us something, and if it's possible to bounce back once you've gotten one. We...
5 Aug 2026
Ep 11: and THAT's For You
After a 1 week Hiatus I say... Hand over your phone. No, seriously. Would you let your parents see your For You Page? Your partner? Your best friend? Because this week, we're asking what might be the most terrifying question we've ever asked on this podcast: What does your algorithm know about you? We're diving headfirst into our For You Pages—from TikTok and Instagram to Facebook Reels and whatever app has you saying, “Okay, ONE more video.” But somewhere between the thirst traps, reci...
22 Jul 2026
Ep 10: and THAT's not my friend anymore... ⛓️💥
Friendship breakups don't always come with slammed doors, dramatic fights, or one person to blame. Sometimes they happen quietly. Life changes, priorities shift, and one day you realize someone you couldn't imagine life without has become a stranger. This week, we're talking about the friendships that shaped us, the ones that faded, and the ones we still think about from time to time. Can you outgrow someone without either of you being the villain? What does it really take to stay friends for...
15 Jul 2026
Ep 9: and THAT's the other 11 months
What does allyship look like when the Pride flags come down? Inspired by a listener question, John Jacob and Jed dive into the uncomfortable gray areas of allyship—especially when family, marriage, loyalty, and silence all collide. Is someone still an ally if they ignore their spouse’s hateful rhetoric? Is “it’s just the internet” ever a valid excuse? And does a harmful post matter less when nobody likes, shares, or interacts with it—or does continuing to post without validation make the inte...
8 Jul 2026
Ep 8: and THAT's Red, White, and CHAOS! 🎇
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: John Jacob went on a date. 🤯 No, seriously. We were just as shocked as you are. This week's Fourth of July episode starts with one innocent question: What's more American—a hot dog 🌭or a burger🍔?Before long, we're debating whether a hot dog is even a sandwich, making entirely too many jokes about a meat between two buns, questioning if sparklers ✨are secretly tiny weapons, and asking the question America has been too afraid to answer: Is the Costco food court a restaurant... ...
29 Jun 2026
Ep 7: Who We Are Now, Who We’ve Always Been, Who We Will Always Be 🌈
The final chapter of our Pride Series is here. Joined by Ryan Oelrich, we talk about religion, identity, marriage, finding yourself, sword swallowing (yes, the literal kind… and unfortunately the other kind too), and the winding road it takes to become comfortable in your own skin. Over the last five episodes, we’ve explored what it means to be LGBTQ+ through the lens of P.R.I.D.E. — Pretending, Realizing, Identifying, Defining, and finally, Evolving. Together we’ve unpacked closets, survival...
22 Jun 2026
Ep 6: and THAT's Healing... unfortunately 🌈
Welcome back to and THAT’s a Pride Convo. This week, we're tackling the part of Pride nobody really warns you about: healing... unfortunately. After spending years pretending, realizing, identifying, surviving, and figuring out who we are, we're finally asking the hard questions. What habits keep sneaking back into our lives? How do we forgive younger versions of ourselves? Are boundaries protecting us, or are we pushing people away? And why does healing somehow feel like the most necessary t...
15 Jun 2026
Ep 5: and THAT's Survival Mode 🌈
This week, Jed and John Jacob are fresh off Pride Weekend and asking the important questions: Are our toxic traits actually personality traits? Why are fish photos still happening on dating apps? And who decided group photos belong in a Tinder profile? From flip phones and moving out for the first time to validation seeking, hyper-independence, trust issues, and whether the apps helped or hurt, the boys unpack the survival mechanisms they've picked up along the way—and the ones they're still ...
8 Jun 2026
Ep 4: and THAT's not JUST a phase. 🌈
🌈 and THAT's not JUST a phase. 🌈 For Episode 2 of and THAT's a PRIDE convo, we're joined by Anthony, Momo, and Lizette to talk about the signs, the denial, the phases, and the moments that made us stop and say, "oh..." Anthony delivers some of the most clip-worthy moments of the series, Momo helps us unpack the idea of phases and self-discovery, and Lizette does what any good friend in the group chat does—accidentally turns the conversation into therapy. Along the way, we talk crushes, labels...
5 Jun 2026
Ep 3: and THAT's Cruising, Grande, TS, & Horror 🚢🎤🧸
🚢✨ DOUBLE DROP ALERT ✨🚢 This week, we're giving you two episodes because apparently one conversation wasn't enough. We're talking about Jed's latest cruise adventures, Ariana Grande's new music, and the Taylor Swift x Toy Story crossover that we are entirely here for. We also discuss whether Taylor might be dropping subtle hints at a return to her country roots, because naturally we have thoughts. From there, we spiral into Disney movies, horror films, and all the random tangents in between. ...
1 Jun 2026
Ep 2: and THAT's a VERY Loud Closet 🌈
For the first episode of and THAT's a PRIDE convo, we're joined by Robert "Robbie" Thompson for a conversation about closets, performances, and the versions of ourselves we created long before we knew who we were. We talk about the signs we ignored, the roles we played, and the idea that maybe we're all born naked and the rest is drag. Because whether you're LGBTQ+ or not, most people spend some part of their life performing for someone else. From suspicious celebrity crushes and "totally str...
25 May 2026
Ep 1: and THAT’s a new HOST! 🎙️⚰️✨
Well… after only one official episode, Josh is no longer with us. No, seriously. Gone. Vanished. Taken by the podcast gods. Thoughts and prayers. 🕯️ So naturally, we did what any emotionally stable podcast would do and immediately replaced him. Enter ... well you will fnd out — their qualifications? Obviously their resume includes trauma, chaotic opinions, and the ability to survive a group chat. This week on and THAT’s a pod convo we spiral through: 💚 and THAT’s Shrek’s 25th anniversary Bec...
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