Archetypes with Meghan - a podcast where we investigate, dissect, and subvert the labels that try to hold women back.
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Listen Now: Attaining the Unattainable with IT Cosmetics’ Jamie Kern Lima
Jamie Kern Lima, IT Cosmetics co-founder, shares her journey from Denny's waitress to beauty industry leader with Meghan, highlighting authenticity and trusting instincts in this interview.
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Listen Now: The Long Game with Girls Who Code’s Reshma Saujani
Reshma Saujani, founder of Girls Who Code and Moms First, discusses redesigning workplaces for women and prioritizing personal health, in an interview with Meghan Markle.
29 Nov 2022
'Man-ifesting A Cultural Shift' with Trevor Noah, Andy Cohen and Judd Apatow
In the season finale of Archetypes, Meghan opens the conversation to see how men feel about archetypes, and the collective effort to move beyond them. She turns to comedian Trevor Noah, talk show host and TV producer Andy Cohen, and director, producer, and screenwriter Judd Apatow to explore how men can be an impactful part of the cultural conversation through their roles in the media, and for some, as husbands and fathers. Plus, a look at how we can change our minds (literally) with psychologist Dr. Tara Brach.
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22 Nov 2022
'Beyond the Archetype: Human, Being' with Michaela Jaé Rodriguez & Candace Bushnell
In the penultimate episode, Meghan explores the freedom and fulfillment that can be found when we live outside of the labels we’re given by society. Joined by Sex and the City author Candace Bushnell and actor and activist Michaela Jaé Rodriquez, together they dive into an open conversation about expressing one’s identity and embracing the nuances that make each of us, quite simply, human. This episode also features special appearances from Dr. Shefali Tsabary, poet Amanda Gorman and a few voices from Meghan’s high school alma mater.
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15 Nov 2022
The Audacity of the Activist with Jameela Jamil & Shohreh Aghdashloo
In this thought provoking and energizing episode, Meghan explores the stereotypes and judgments women face in the world of activism. In her no-holds-barred conversations with actors and activists Jameela Jamil and Shohreh Aghdashloo, Meghan deep dives into why activism in women is often deemed audacious, and the effect this has on many of the causes that matter most. These timely and emotional conversations are complete with comedian and activist Ilana Glazer and historian Lisa Tetrault.
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8 Nov 2022
To ‘B’ or not to ‘B’? with Mellody Hobson & Victoria Jackson
In this dynamic episode, Meghan explores the origin and plague of “the B word” and its cousin “difficult” and how these terms are often wrongly applied to a strong minded woman, especially in business. In deep and meaningful conversations with trailblazers Mellody Hobson and Victoria Jackson, Meghan investigates the language used to gaslight women as they grow their careers as entrepreneurs and on the corporate ladder. Creator and writer, Robin Thede, also joins Meghan, along with author Allison Yarrow, and zoologist and author Lucy Cooke.
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1 Nov 2022
Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Pamela Adlon and Sam Jay
In this raw and enlightening episode, Meghan unveils the roles of "Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom" and explores the judgments behind them. In these candid and highly entertaining chats with First Lady of Canada, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, as well as Pamela Adlon, and Sam Jay, Meghan delves into the pressures of what it means to be a partner and a parent in this modern age.
This episode also features authors Dr. Shefali Tsabary and Angela Garbes.
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25 Oct 2022
Upending the “Angry Black Woman” Myth with Issa Rae & Ziwe
In this thought provoking and stirring episode, Meghan gets to the bottom of the label that is often pinned on Black women – “angry”. In her raw conversation with Issa Rae, coupled with candid chats with Ziwe and Professor Emily Bernard, this episode asks honest questions about the judgements we make about women, and specifically women of color. It begs the question: does setting boundaries, having an opinion, and being clear make you angry… or human?
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18 Oct 2022
Breaking down 'The Bimbo' with Paris Hilton & Iliza Shlesinger
In this candid and eye opening episode, Meghan breaks down the labels of “Bimbo” and “Dumb Blonde” and explores why brains and beauty in a woman have been historically pitted against each other. To delve deep, Meghan connects with Paris Hilton in a surprising and revealing conversation, as Paris opens up about the trope that defined her, how she at times played into it, and how she is now coming into her own.
Journalist Clare Malone also joins the conversation alongside comedian Iliza Shlesinger, as Meghan unearths who is really in on the joke.
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11 Oct 2022
The Decoding of Crazy with Deepika Padukone, Jenny Slate and Constance Wu
Meghan dives into an in-depth and vulnerable conversation with Deepika Padukone, Jenny Slate and Constance Wu about the insidious ways ‘crazy’ is used to diminish women’s credibility. Together, they examine the historical use of the word “hysteria” as a diagnosis for women dating back to ancient Greece. The episode also features comedian Aparna Nancherla and the former Surgeon General of California, Dr. Nadine Burke-Harris.
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4 Oct 2022
The Demystification of Dragon Lady with Margaret Cho & Lisa Ling
Meghan engages in candid and illuminating conversations with Margaret Cho and Lisa Ling about the archetypes that try to limit and define Asian women. Meghan also explores the power of representation and finding your voice for the AAPI community and beyond. This episode also features sociologist Nancy Wang Yuen.
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6 Sept 2022
The Stigma of the Singleton with Mindy Kaling
Meghan speaks candidly with Mindy Kaling who opens up in an unprecedented conversation about the joys, challenges, and stigmas of her life as a single, unmarried woman – plus her decision to start a family on her own. This episode also features New York Magazine writer Rebecca Traister, who unpacks the many archetypes that have followed single women for generations.
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30 Aug 2022
The Duality of Diva with Mariah Carey
Meghan talks to the grande dame of our time, Mariah Carey, about the complexities surrounding the “diva” – from the diva’s glamour and power and elegance, to the more negative connotations associated with the word. This episode also features actress and comedian, Amanda Seales, as well as Dr. Mashinka Firunts Hakopian, a scholar of feminist and media studies.
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23 Aug 2022
The Misconception of Ambition with Serena Williams
Meghan talks to the one and only Serena Williams about the double standard women face when they are labeled "ambitious" and the ripple effect this has on other aspects of their lives. This groundbreaking premiere episode also features Dr. Laura Kray, a leading expert on gender in the workplace.
1993 interview with Meghan used with permission from Nickelodeon.
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23 Aug 2022
ARCHETYPES. Don't believe the type.
Introducing Archetypes, a refreshing and dynamic new podcast where Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex dives into the labels that try to hold women back. During these intimate and candid conversations with guests from around the world we discover how these archetypes impact our everyday lives in ways big and small. With experts and historians, Meghan also uncovers how we got here in the first place – unearthing the origin of words such as ‘diva’, ‘slut’, ‘the B word’, ‘hysterical’, and many more, and asks the question: can we change this? Archetypes. Don’t believe the type.
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Inside a recent episode
Listen Now: Attaining the Unattainable with IT Cosmetics’ Jamie Kern Lima
Published 24 May 2025 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And I love the beauty commercials. I love them and the ads and magazines. And I always aspired to look like that. But deep down inside, they always made me feel like I wasn't enough. And it was this why that hit me. I was like, wait a minute. What if I could launch a business where I put real people as models, like every age and shape and size and skin tone and skin challenge and that was such new thinking that when you were going to market that was so now it might seem more normalized and people might be listening going, well, yeah, of course, it was not. And of course, it was a revolutionary way to think about makeup and beauty at the time. […]
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