
Art to Art with Natasha Norman
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<p>Welcome to Art to Art with Natasha Norman (previously the Latitude Art Podcast).</p><br><p>Unlock the hidden secrets of artistry where colour, brush strokes, and creativity are connected with the personalities and processes behind the scenes.</p><br><p>Join Natasha in a series of conversations with artists from the Latitude Aparthotel° Collection (and beyond), from renowned painters and sculptors to emerging talents.</p><br><p>Each episode brings you personal insights into the inspirations, struggles, and creative joy behind an artist's work, anecdotal and documentary. This artistic reveal will ignite your imagination with a passion and daily diligence that defines the work behind the art.</p><br><p>Brought to you by <a href="https://www.staylatitude.co.za/latitude-media/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latitude Aparthotel.</a></p><p>Hosted by <a href="https://natashanorman.co.za/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natasha Norman.</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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April 3, 2026
Athi-Patra Ruga
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athi-Patra_Ruga&ved=2ahUKEwjO2c30m9GTAxXTW0EAHeawKBsQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3zBeobXnTi8RrKrAD-E9n9" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Athi-Patra Ruga</a> is a South African artist whose practice is transdisciplinary and transgressive in its nature and intention. His production encompasses performance, video, tapestry, painting and sculpture. His earlier work engaged with what the post-1994 moment in South Africa meant for his generation: a moment of hope, vibrancy, and fraught with unforeseen complexities and inherited trauma. As such, his practice is entangled in paradox and productive tensions, engaging with the notions of trans - transformation, transience, transgression, as a means of radical self- exploration. His work is characterized by a practice of world-making and self-invention within a fictional framework that he has created entitled Azania, a utopian realm for the critique of post-apartheid nationalism and the foregrounding of queer, femme and black experiences. </p><p>Our conversation was poised between the memory of an historical moment in the Cape Town art scene that we shared in 2012 and reflections of the current Cape Town art scene following the 2026 Investec Cape Town art fair. Athi generously discussed what he sees as his current role in the arts ecosystem, now working from his home in Hogsback in the Eastern Cape. </p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://artthrob.co.za/&ved=2ahUKEwje6svdm9GTAxXJQUEAHayiLg4QFnoECCoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0jbBPUV3_4Aj5mrOtRIRuk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>ArtThrob</strong></a><strong> </strong>is South Africa’s leading independent online contemporary art magazine, founded in 1997 by Sue Williamson to provide critical coverage, reviews, and interviews. It acts as a vital, non-profit, Creative Commons-licensed platform focusing on national and international South African art</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://steven-cohen.com/en/biography/&ved=2ahUKEwjoldTjm9GTAxVQUUEAHTy1NCcQFnoECE0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0DcV8B6Q5Y0ghnoXV7ajns" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Stephen Cohen</strong></a> is a visual and performance artist born in Johannesburg. His art spans public interventions and gallery and theatre performances, often exploring themes of identity, marginalisation, and societal norms.</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://humanities.uct.ac.za/centre-ctdps/staff-jay-pather/jay-pather&ved=2ahUKEwjRlLLrm9GTAxWFX0EAHXsGLDMQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jLfNlq3FjioZ3WGAm_TN3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Jay Pather</strong></a> is a Professor at University of Cape Town, directing the Institute for Creative Arts. He is a performance theorist, choreographer and curator. He curates the Infecting the City Festival; the ICA Live Art Festival and the Afrovibes Festival (The Netherlands).</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.whatiftheworld.com/&ved=2ahUKEwiT6tHQm9GTAxUEXEEAHR4QAgoQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ZygK4ixPrNcqfAW1yLbLo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>WHATIFTHEWORLD Gallery</strong></a> was founded in 2008 in Cape Town, WHATIFTHEWORLD is acontemporary art gallery focusing on artists from Africa and the diaspora. It showcases multi-disciplinary, group and solo projects that engage with socio-political themes. Athi-Patra Ruga is represented by WHATIFTHEWORLD Gallery.</p><br><p><strong>Ilulwane</strong> is a 2011–2012 multi-disciplinary performance art piece by Athi-Patra Ruga. It is a haunting, site-specific synchronized swimming performance that explores themes of queer identity, cultural tradition, and the HIV/AIDS epidemic. It was staged in public swimming baths, including Performa 11 in New York and the Long Street Baths in Cape Town.</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://web.uj.ac.za/artsdev/whats-on/bodyland-a-site-for-contemplation/&ved=2ahUKEwiuh4fBm9GTAxUIVkEAHcjPEQwQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3OJmrsdlWAwiYxGbneP7iO" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Bodyland Residency</strong></a> in Hogsback is a 14-day high-octane, Eastern Cape-based artistic incubator established in 2020 by Victory of the Word (VOW) under the mentorship of artist Athi-Patra Ruga. It provides emerging artists in visual art, film, fashion, and performance with a space for creative exploration, mentoring, and engagement with land and heritage in the Tyhume Valley.</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.gabriellegoliath.com/&ved=2ahUKEwiPofO5m9GTAxUtV0EAHcN-GLMQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw163QjVDh1qGkhSLf4FVyDd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Gabriella Goliath</strong></a> is a Ph.D candidate at the Institute for Creative Arts at the University of Cape Town, where her research continues to explore ethical strategies for addressing violence and absence in contemporary art. Her artwork proposed for the South African Pavilion at the 2026 Venice Biennale, Elegy, was canceled by South Africa's culture minister over references to Gaza, sparking backlash and a failed legal challenge.</p><br><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://zeitzmocaa.museum/product/events/annual-gala/zeitz-mocaa-gala-2026/&ved=2ahUKEwj_v9exm9GTAxWkQkEAHfIXJ60QFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1BGWNWYEMTO6EhD0wOu0k6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>The Zeitz MOCAA Gala</strong></a> is a premier annual fundraising event held in Cape Town, South Africa, celebrating contemporary African art, culture, and philanthropy. It gathers global art patrons, collectors, and artists for a glamorous night of entertainment and dining to support the museum's curatorial and educational programs.</p><br><p>Brought to you by <a href="https://www.staylatitude.co.za/podcast-studio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latitude Media</a></p><br><p>Production, Mix and Master by <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.geraldkent.com/&ved=2ahUKEwjxu9eQnNGTAxUCWEEAHTyIGaUQFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw35fZ3liLmQRoxHInoCWcT8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gerald Kent</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

February 17, 2026
Josephine Grindrod
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://josephinegrindrod.com/about/&ved=2ahUKEwiO4dbkpeCSAxVtWkEAHVlhOh4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw34Xl9KoetbivKHFvHRBKyb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>Josephine Grindrod</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Josephine Grindrod is an artist who situates her painting practice as an embodied, critical and generative response to found narratives, objects and images. Her visual research draws on psychoanalysis in order to challenge traditionally male, Colonial, language and knowledge systems. She positions imagination as an important tool in artmaking. A tool that can enable a productive deconstruction of memories, landscape or art history in order to re-vision beliefs and prejudices. Her art making is a conscious process of redressing her personal history, led by intuition, poetry and dreaming. As an artist who is led by process and embodied material making, our discussion of her forthcoming presentation at the Cape Town Art Fair 2026 weaves together ideas and influences that lay the foundation for a viewer’s understanding of her visual world. </p><br><p>Art to Art hosted by <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://natashanorman.co.za/&ved=2ahUKEwjR0pSypeCSAxX2XUEAHUmkEC8QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1wavbSnTHDW2WY19vL488F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natasha Norman</a></p><br><p>Brought to you by <a href="https://www.staylatitude.co.za/podcast-studio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latitude Media</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

May 21, 2025
Rosie Mudge
Artist Rosie Mudge discusses how motherhood and societal expectations impact her artistic practice, particularly her works presented at the Iziko South African National Gallery's exhibition, in an interview with Natasha Norman.
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<p>Welcome to Art to Art with Natasha Norman (previously the Latitude Art Podcast).</p><br><p>Unlock the hidden secrets of artistry where colour, brush strokes, and creativity are connected with the personalities and processes behind the scenes.</p><br><p>Join Natasha in a series of conversations with artists from the Latitude Aparthotel° Collection (and beyond), from renowned painters and sculptors to emerging talents.</p><br><p>Each episode brings you personal insights into the inspirations, struggles, and creative joy behind an artist's work, anecdotal and documentary. This artistic reveal will ignite your imagination with a passion and daily diligence that defines the work behind the art.</p><br><p>Brought to you by <a href="https://www.staylatitude.co.za/latitude-media/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Latitude Aparthotel.</a></p><p>Hosted by <a href="https://natashanorman.co.za/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Natasha Norman.</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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