Jen and Lisa chat about filming walk-on songs (including Ricky Martin’s “The Cup of Life”), and complain about wildfire smoke, high-top tables, and food trucks. The episode’s main theme winds up the career change trilogy with guest Liz Figueira, who explains moving from big-law litigation to the New York State AG’s office and then the EEOC and Lizzie Hughes switching from criminal law to immigration and then to public finance. Trivia with Bill includes musical questions and some geography, and this episode’s idiom isn’t “barking up the wrong tree,” followed by more sunscreen product picks and shout-outs.
00:00 Show Intro and Disclaimer
11:42 Sheep World Cup Fact Check
19:45 Meet Liz Figueira
50:38 Law Daughter Lizzie Hughes’s (Very) Early Career Pivot
01:00:55 Musical Trivia with Trivia Master MacDonald
01:12:00 Product(s) of the Week
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01:14:40 Shout Outs
11 Jul 2026
Mom, is it time to find a new roost?
Career and Geographic Moves: From Public Defense to Academia, and Buffalo to HarvardJen and Lisa open the Ask Your Law Mom podcast with banter about appointment frustrations, Toy Story 5, and fact checks about roosting birds and NYPD Blue’s homing pigeons, then discuss the origins of “Yankee Doodle.” The episode’s theme is making moves, including geographical ones, featuring guest Professor Liz Boals on her path from public defender to academia, an explanation of what tenure is, and moving to Stetson in 2020 amid COVID. They also interview Hannah Witkin, a paralegal starting Harvard Law with public-interest goals, and her partner Trinity RIdout, who is moving from Buffalo to Boston and planning a career change, discussing community-building, support during 1L, and cultural favorites. The episode ends with trivia involving FIFA, fireworks, and shark-attack, and a product recommendation for Simple Modern water bottles and backpacks.
00:00 Welcome & Intro
06:37 Bird Fact Checks
14:46 Yankee Doodle Origins
27:28 Interview with Professor Liz Boals
01:00:07 Meet Young Professionals Hannah Witkin and Trinity Ridout
01:29:40 Trivia with Master MacDonald
01:42:19 Product of the Week: Simple Modern Water Bottles
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01:46:32 Shoutouts and Wrap Up
27 Jun 2026
Mom, I need a job change - can I sing about muffins?
Jen and Lisa discuss their shared dislike of change while acknowledging it is constant and can be positive, reflecting on end-of-school-year transitions, an amazing new colleague, and a work trip to the EATS conference in St. Pete’s/Treasure Island, where they tried “Mom Water” and visited Malio’s. They interview success coach Deb Pratt about career change and learn about PEST/VUCA and VUCA Prime, as well as balancing job search with strategic transition. Lizzy Vinyl-Adams shares her career shift from Neighborhood Legal Services to working with Jen & LIsa, advice on seizing opportunities, and now-famous Gen Z slang. The episode also includes a related idiom segment, an iconic Pride Month-themed trivia segment, and a possible manatee sighting.
00:00 Why Change Is Hard04:36 Malios Podcast Pilgrimage (check out Jen's favorite - Lawyers Behaving Badly Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lawyers-behaving-badly/id1654960102?i=1000604439661)07:34 On the Ground With Trent10:42 Meet Success Coach O. Deborah Pratt: https://www.consultacoach-odp.com49:19 Product of the Week: Diet Cherry Coke Returns: https://www.target.com/p/diet-coke-feisty-cherry-12pk-12-fl-oz-cans/-/A-1295295852:11 (Re)Meet Lizzy Vinyl01:04:38 Lisa's Bad Parenting (or Crafting) Confession01:05:57 Pigeonholed Idiom Explained01:10:22 Pride Month Trivia Game with Bill MacDonald01:20:43 Shoutouts
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