Bao Podcast

About Bao Podcast

Every month, we invite a guest on the Bao Podcast who's active in the construction industry. With our guests, we discuss the latest evolutions and the future of this interesting industry. Want to learn more about Bao Living? Visit https://en.baoliving.com/

Publisher

Bao Living

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

24 May 2021

Latest episode

31 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

46 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   31 Aug 2026

   #45: Leo Van Broeck (Professor of architectural and urban design at KU Leuven)

   In this episode of the Bao Living Podcast, we sit down with Leo Van Broeck, architect, co-founder of Bogdan & Van Broeck and former Vlaams Bouwmeester.We talk about the way Flanders has been built, the pressure on our limited space and what needs to change if we want a more sustainable built environment.From the bouwshift and renovation wave to our relationship with nature, raw materials and the rise of industrialised and modular construction, Leo shares his perspective on where the building sector needs to go next.🎙️ A conversation about architecture, policy and one big question: how do we build better without simply building more? Shownotes: Leo Van Broeck (  / leo-van-broeck-81aa7bb   (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUzFNMmVYWTdCT2lxRWFtRmRZM0J2THxBR3JiS2FsUVNCQkZSMkpjQWJDSzVHOFliRm1CVElHb0RWSjJ1TUR5eHc4b2h2THVrN0ZYb1RDMldBbjFkd3BHcENGZEFhVnMxR21XQWZxaU02UUlhazhpOVdmWnRoWXZiX0VE&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fleo-van-broeck-81aa7bb%2F&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Bogdan & Van Broeck (https://www.bogdan.design/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVHh2UWZ2WFQyUkhkUXRveXdUa21FSXxBR3JiS2FrQ01yUmpFTVlfc29RX0RnNUNYZ2pTTWlKWmtIRUNKcmFQOFJRbzBGNXMzeVZlcHZZNk1JVzhnWjFPdUZ4bmJNWGtOdWVXcFd2anRVMjNxNzRQbkY3cXZuZlBxa0RT&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bogdan.design%2F&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Catholic University of Leuven (KU Leuven) (https://www.kuleuven.be/english/kuleuven (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUURKZjR4QlZ3cTRjM3ZFZ1lpZGhDWnxBR3JiS2FrSEFRMUFCTkx3S1IwNHBLbkMxazEyazNxSkM4Z1ZDa3F4Q3FfZjE5Y2FCWFU2UC1KY2pYOU9hQ1ZJaG1KWkNYWnB5aGZvSk40dFVaUXp6VFpWV2N0bjJjLXh5V0d6&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kuleuven.be%2Fenglish%2Fkuleuven&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Club of Rome (https://www.clubofrome.org/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUlU3cEdJUDFrd2Q2c3NpdDd1R0w4V3xBR3JiS2FrcFlKaXlrTmNYTzh3ck5LVG1yMUdlTkxfWVlvT3NUWHVHbTd4aDZfZi1TTHBIYkhHQkhKb05haEJrQmFOendPaTd3RUpBZVYyekFFNzJ3LVhZeU45UFo2dS04Vlp3&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.clubofrome.org%2F&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Climate Expert Committee of the Brussels Region (https://www.brupartners.brussels/nl/b... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUTJyQ09ScTlBUkR0OEJwZ2dVS2RicnxBR3JiS2FuQXM3ZkZsWjNIclRZMC1XbHZBZXB0Q0p6cjJLNHN2ajBmUjZ3aFFKOXJ2aU5ILVZPVjJsX0ZEcGQ5ZUZCY1RxZXdrN3FoazR0czZMYUVGNFFvTG81MDh4UnZ3MEdZ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brupartners.brussels%2Fnl%2Fbrussels-comite-van-klimaatdeskundigen&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Urban Sprawl: Get Fat, Stay Poor, and Die in Car Crashes: A 2014 study publication (https://www.fastcompany.com/3028661/u... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2dNanFRMkhxLXlyQkg3bEYyYkNPdXxBR3JiS2FrZFhReHVZdy1rbHJicU5JcGlJRUs4Q2FHXzhnQVVSQ1RJWkhjMnBWSmc2ZGhMbTBiMFNtUjNSRzNRdWFLS1pwR0NRMTJ2TkVCVWphT1dvUXY0MlJod2doU1NucnVy&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fastcompany.com%2F3028661%2Furban-sprawl-get-fat-stay-poor-and-die-in-car-crashes&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Rerum Novarum: An encyclical written by Pope Leo XIII at the end of the 19th century (https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xi... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUXJlU3M4b25kd1F2QWh1YXpTXzJKb3xBR3JiS2Fra0J0Y1BybElWdzVjenB4dERtc19aYTA3YV95ek91cmh1VG1EZnZNRHFrNDdZNHlNYVZoRjBJSS03V0NkN2JQcDhCek5KUTVsdU9JMWRGMnBtVkc2b1dTQ0pOTzBD&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vatican.va%2Fcontent%2Fleo-xiii%2Fen%2Fencyclicals%2Fdocuments%2Fhf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Half-Earth: A book written by Edward O. Wilson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Earth (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUmwyU2pQRHNIbkhmNlR6Q2ZZX2lISXxBR3JiS2FsUVByRGJJbXI5NF9QMGF6N1VmSEtFSTJWLUtER0VoUUMtSEEwYk1yMkUyNy0wMnJfNTBzeE55N3FVeWN2emN4MnhuZXBLNUF6OFpKM2xTS0EwdW81TFZnUFdJLVli&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHalf-Earth&v=2dFWhIqj488)) L'Anomalie (The Anomaly) by Hervé Le Tellier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ano... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2gzU3hXeUVsWXF0RVhhQ3RtUzNsOXxBR3JiS2FuRjdMUDZwSE1sSTNRU1BLV1A2QW9vcDZ4TFFQTWh2M2NMZ25qX0tva0t2dHpNR01HOHQwaEVhcTNQN01ObUlabW1Fd29zR0JMamJ2MC1WaWl2YTB1RkdVMXphRDNU&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThe_Anomaly_%28novel%29&v=2dFWhIqj488)) L'Amante Senza Fissa Dimora (The Lover Without a Fixed Address) by Fruttero & Lucentini (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27ama... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2V6MVhER05mRkFoQ3pxWENIXzVWUHxBR3JiS2FtczNzcDNSVkNlQWlVVGo4b2xqaXhnN2hWLWxycDUwbjg2ZnpBaEE4OFVIdnNKVE9QdVJkQ0FSbHRwOWhlN1pLQzRZTTBmNS1kdVRLQ2pOMnR3NnRvN2FScjlxd2VH&q=https%3A%2F%2Fit.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FL%2527amante_senza_fissa_dimora&v=2dFWhIqj488)) Timestamps:00:11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=11s) – Introduction of Guest Leo Van Broeck01:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=115s) – Awakening to Land Use and Climate Change05:04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=304s) – Human Disturbance of Natural Ecosystems07:53 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=473s) – Pitfalls of Spatial Planning and Agriculture10:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=600s) – Personal Practice Decisions and Public Action11:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=706s) – Commercial Influence of Ethical Design14:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=870s) – Selection as Flemish Government Architect15:09 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=909s) – Societal Hardships from Low-Density Sprawl19:28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=1168s) – Historical Evolution of Sedentary Land Control22:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=1354s) – Spiritual and Philosophical Origins of Misbehavior27:36 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=1656s) – Capitalist Market Models and Wealth Disparity31:38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=1898s) – Advocacy and Public Engagement Outcomes34:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=2043s) – Anecdotes of Positive Community Shifts36:54 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=2214s) – Historic Spatial Policy Differences in Flanders41:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=2494s) – Reflections on Long-Term Ecological Pessimism46:33 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=2793s) – True Reclamation and Demarcation of Nature49:02 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=2942s) – European Conservation Strategies and Policy Shifts52:26 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3146s) – Quantifying Species Loss and Critical Demographics56:04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3364s) – Timeframes Required for Global Repair01:00:37 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3637s) – Closing Questions: Historical Figure Discussion01:02:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3755s) – Closing Questions: Reading Recommendations01:05:42 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3942s) – Closing Questions: Best Recent Purchase01:06:17 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dFWhIqj488&t=3977s) – Concluding Remarks and Outro#baopodcast (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/baopodcast) #podcast (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/podcast) #ubandesign (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ubandesign) #architecture (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/architecture)

2. 

   22 Jun 2026

   #44: Daan Grasveld (The Urban Jungle Project)

   In this episode, we sit down with the co-founder and CEO of Urban Jungle Project, a company rethinking how nature can live inside our cities, from green rooftops and living facades to forgotten urban spaces turned into climate-proof ecosystems.We talk about urban heat, biodiversity, 3D-printed jungle blocks, smart plant monitoring, and why the cities of tomorrow may need to look a lot less grey.Let’s dive in.Shownotes:The Urban Jungle Project (https://www.theurbanjungleproject.com/en/) Daan Grasveld (https://www.linkedin.com/in/daangrasveld/)Sony Music Entertainment (https://www.sonymusic.com/) Picnic Supermarkets (https://jobs.picnic.app/en/about-picnic)Ebben Tree Nursery (https://www.ebben.nl/en/)Nos (https://nos.nl/)TU Delft (Delft University of Technology) (https://www.tudelft.nl/en/)Timestamps:00:11: Intro01:41: Dan’s professional background03:10: Spark for the project05:43: Pivot from energy to nature07:04: Global urbanization challenges08:35: Urban Heat Island effect12:12: Benefits of green roofing14:28: The business case for nature15:48: Launching the first pilot19:45: Founder and partnership dynamics21:54: Choosing heart over head26:55: Embracing generalist leadership29:37: Advantage of organic growth37:59: Modular and lightweight tech39:57: Sensors and maintenance care42:47: Overcoming growth constraints44:47: Measuring biodiversity and impact51:21: Future company vision52:18: Closing and contact info

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   28 Jan 2026

   #43: Tom Willemen (Willemen Groep)

   Our guest is Tom Willemen, CEO of Willemen Groep, a leading Belgian construction powerhouse spanning infrastructure, real estate, and civil engineering. Under his leadership, the group has become a frontrunner in sustainability and digital transformation. As Chairman of Embuild, Tom is a vocal advocate for industrialising the sector and modernising the construction ecosystem. Today, we discuss the challenges and future of the industry. Show notes: Willemen Groep (https://www.willemen.be/en (https://www.willemen.be/en)) Tom Willemen (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwillemen/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwillemen/)) BuildWise (https://www.buildwise.be/en/ (https://www.buildwise.be/en/)) BuildWise Vision Comittee publication on “Circularity” (https://www.buildwise.be/media/xmtbgbcw/bwi_visiedocument_circularity.pdf (https://www.buildwise.be/media/xmtbgbcw/bwi_visiedocument_circularity.pdf)) BuildWise Vision Committee publication “Finance and Affordability of construction in 2031” (https://www.buildwise.be/media/apephizu/bwi-230201-visierapport_1i23-int.pdf (https://www.buildwise.be/media/apephizu/bwi-230201-visierapport_1i23-int.pdf)) Time stamps: 00:00 Intro 01: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4RAiuwDVA&t=215s)50 Inside Willemen Groep: what “day-to-day” really looks like 2:40 Challenges in the construction industry 5:06 Potential solutions and innovation 10:07 Finding time to think in an industry that never stops 11:11 The BuildWise vision committee 12:23 Zooming in the Circularity report 16:09 The Affordability report 18:03 Leadership in construction 21:13 Lessons and setbacks of Willemen Groep 24:48 Vision for the Future: 2040 31:40 The most difficult ecosystem part to redesign 34:56 Tips and tricks to stay informed and keep learning 38:30 Outro

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