Every month, we invite a guest on the Bao Podcast who's active in the construction industry. With our guests, we discuss the latest evolutions and the future of this interesting industry. Want to learn more about Bao Living? Visit https://en.baoliving.com/

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Every month, we invite a guest on the Bao Podcast who's active in the construction industry. With our guests, we discuss the latest evolutions and the future of this interesting industry. Want to learn more about Bao Living? Visit https://en.baoliving.com/
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June 22, 2026
#44: Daan Grasveld (The Urban Jungle Project)
<p>In this episode, we sit down with the co-founder and CEO of Urban Jungle Project, a company rethinking how nature can live inside our cities, from green rooftops and living facades to forgotten urban spaces turned into climate-proof ecosystems.We talk about urban heat, biodiversity, 3D-printed jungle blocks, smart plant monitoring, and why the cities of tomorrow may need to look a lot less grey.Let’s dive in.Shownotes:The Urban Jungle Project (https://www.theurbanjungleproject.com/en/) Daan Grasveld (https://www.linkedin.com/in/daangrasveld/)Sony Music Entertainment (https://www.sonymusic.com/) Picnic Supermarkets (https://jobs.picnic.app/en/about-picnic)Ebben Tree Nursery (https://www.ebben.nl/en/)Nos (https://nos.nl/)TU Delft (Delft University of Technology) (https://www.tudelft.nl/en/)Timestamps:00:11: Intro01:41: Dan’s professional background03:10: Spark for the project05:43: Pivot from energy to nature07:04: Global urbanization challenges08:35: Urban Heat Island effect12:12: Benefits of green roofing14:28: The business case for nature15:48: Launching the first pilot19:45: Founder and partnership dynamics21:54: Choosing heart over head26:55: Embracing generalist leadership29:37: Advantage of organic growth37:59: Modular and lightweight tech39:57: Sensors and maintenance care42:47: Overcoming growth constraints44:47: Measuring biodiversity and impact51:21: Future company vision52:18: Closing and contact info</p>

January 28, 2026
#43: Tom Willemen (Willemen Groep)
<p>Our guest is Tom Willemen, CEO of Willemen Groep, a leading Belgian construction powerhouse spanning infrastructure, real estate, and civil engineering. Under his leadership, the group has become a frontrunner in sustainability and digital transformation. As Chairman of Embuild, Tom is a vocal advocate for industrialising the sector and modernising the construction ecosystem. Today, we discuss the challenges and future of the industry.</p><p><br></p><p>Show notes: </p><p>Willemen Groep (<a href="https://www.willemen.be/en"><u>https://www.willemen.be/en</u></a>) </p><p>Tom Willemen (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwillemen/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwillemen/</u></a>) </p><p>BuildWise (<a href="https://www.buildwise.be/en/"><u>https://www.buildwise.be/en/</u></a>) </p><p>BuildWise Vision Comittee publication on “Circularity” (<a href="https://www.buildwise.be/media/xmtbgbcw/bwi_visiedocument_circularity.pdf"><u>https://www.buildwise.be/media/xmtbgbcw/bwi_visiedocument_circularity.pdf</u></a>) </p><p>BuildWise Vision Committee publication “Finance and Affordability of construction in 2031” (<a href="https://www.buildwise.be/media/apephizu/bwi-230201-visierapport_1i23-int.pdf"><u>https://www.buildwise.be/media/apephizu/bwi-230201-visierapport_1i23-int.pdf</u></a>) </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4RAiuwDVA&t=215s">:</a>50 Inside Willemen Groep: what “day-to-day” really looks like</p><p>2:40 Challenges in the construction industry </p><p>5:06 Potential solutions and innovation</p><p>10:07 Finding time to think in an industry that never stops</p><p>11:11 The BuildWise vision committee</p><p>12:23 Zooming in the Circularity report</p><p>16:09 The Affordability report</p><p>18:03 Leadership in construction</p><p>21:13 Lessons and setbacks of Willemen Groep </p><p>24:48 Vision for the Future: 2040 </p><p>31:40 The most difficult ecosystem part to redesign</p><p>34:56 Tips and tricks to stay informed and keep learning</p><p>38:30 Outro</p>

October 29, 2025
#42: Joachim De Vos (Living Tomorrow)
<p>In this episode we speak with Joachim De Vos, Co-chair and Managing Partner of Living Tomorrow, founder of TomorrowLab, and professor of scenario planning at Ghent University.</p><p>Since the early 1990s, when the first House of the Future opened its doors, Joachim has helped organizations and policymakers prepare for what’s next through foresight, scenario planning, and innovation strategy.</p><p>He is also the author of Why Innovation Fails, which examines the pitfalls of innovation and how companies can become “future fit.” The book features a deep dive into the Kodak case, developed with Steven Sasson, the inventor of the digital camera.</p><p>We talk about the lessons of innovation success and failure, how to keep a strong vision alive inside complex organizations, and the future shifts Joachim believes will change how we live and work.</p><p><br></p><p>Show notes: </p><p>Living Tomorrow (<a href="https://www.livingtomorrow.com/nl/">https://www.livingtomorrow.com/nl/</a>)</p><p>TomorrowLab (<a href="https://www.tomorrowlab.com/">https://www.tomorrowlab.com/</a>)</p><p>Joachim De Vos (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joachimdevos/?originalSubdomain=be">https://www.linkedin.com/in/joachimdevos/?originalSubdomain=be</a>)</p><p>Frank Belien (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-belien-66a6b815/?originalSubdomain=be">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-belien-66a6b815/?originalSubdomain=be</a>) </p><p>Joachim De Vos - Why Innovation fails (<a href="https://www.lannoo.be/nl/why-innovation-fails-0">https://www.lannoo.be/nl/why-innovation-fails-0</a>) </p><p>Evi Gruyaert - Waarom luisteren gelukkig maakt (<a href="https://www.pelckmansuitgevers.be/waarom-luisteren-gelukkig-maakt.html">https://www.pelckmansuitgevers.be/waarom-luisteren-gelukkig-maakt.html</a>) </p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps: </p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>03:35 Bill Gates at the opening of the house of the future</p><p>9:00 About the first house of the future</p><p>13:00 About the second house of the future</p><p>14:45 About the current evolutions</p><p>30:30 How does not being CEO anymore shift your focus? </p><p>39:30 What are good tools to better handle organizations?</p><p>45:30 Thinking about the future is art</p><p>48:00 Outro</p><p><br></p>
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