I'm Kelly Saynor, aesthetics nurse and founder of The Perfect Peel® and Glutaceuticals. Barefaced Chat is my no-fluff podcast exploring beauty, skin, ageing, and identity with real people and experts alike. From hormones to hype, we uncover what’s really going on beneath the surface, honest, unfiltered, and always human.
Ep 32: The Truth About Semi-Permanent Makeup | Jo Kilburn
In Episode 32 of Barefaced Chat, Kelly is joined by semi-permanent makeup artist and beauty-business owner Jo Kilburn.
Jo shares her journey into semi-permanent makeup, the realities of working within the industry and what clients should understand before choosing a treatment or artist.
Kelly and Jo discuss the skill, responsibility and trust involved in semi-permanent makeup, as well as the effect these treatments can have on confidence and how people feel about themselves.
Jo also talks about building The Beauty Room, running a beauty salon and navigating the challenges of growing a business while moving through difficult periods in her personal life.
The conversation explores divorce, spirituality, resilience and Jo’s next chapter as part of the Renew Wellness collective at Renew Medical Aesthetics.
Topics include:
• What semi-permanent makeup involves • What to consider before booking a treatment • Choosing a skilled and trustworthy artist • Managing expectations and achieving natural results • Beauty, identity and confidence • Becoming a semi-permanent makeup artist • Building and running a beauty business • Navigating divorce and personal change • Spirituality and trusting your intuition • Joining the Renew Wellness collective
An honest conversation about beauty, business, confidence and the deeper human stories behind the treatments.
8 Jul 2026
Ep 31: Women’s Health, Chronic Pain and the Pressure to Keep Going - Heather Lilley gets Barefaced
In this episode of Barefaced Chat, Kelly is joined by Heather Lilley for an honest conversation about women’s health, chronic pain, lifestyle change and the pressure to keep going.
Heather shares her experience of making significant changes in her life and returning to academia as a PhD researcher in Sports & Exercise Sciences at Manchester Metropolitan University.
Together, Kelly and Heather explore the expectations often placed on women, the deeply human experience of living with chronic pain, and what can happen when your body begins asking you to live differently.
They discuss resilience, identity, health, ambition and the courage it can take to make meaningful change.
Topics include:
• Women’s health and societal expectations• Chronic pain and the human experience• The pressure to cope and push through• Making lasting lifestyle changes• Returning to academia• PhD research in Sports & Exercise Sciences• Identity, resilience and personal transformation
An open and thoughtful conversation about health, change and learning to listen to yourself differently.Because skin isn't just skin. It's your story, and I'm here for it.
13 May 2026
Ep 30: Understanding Your Skin — Dr Nicholas Craven on Dermatology, Moles & Sun Damage
In this episode of Barefaced Chat, we sit down with Dr Nicholas Craven for an insightful conversation all about dermatology, skin health, and what we should really be paying attention to when it comes to our skin.
We explore everything from moles and sun spots to ageing, prevention, and the signs people often overlook. Dr Craven explains what dermatology actually involves, what to look out for on your own skin, and why awareness and early attention can make such a difference.
This episode is an approachable and informative conversation designed to help people better understand their skin — without fear, confusion, or overwhelm.
💬 In this episode we discuss:
• What dermatology actually is• Moles and skin changes• Sun spots and age spots• What to look for on your own skin• Prevention, awareness and skin health• The importance of checking your skin regularly
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