Barren not Broken

About Barren not Broken

Infertility. Pregnancy loss. Childlessness not by choice. If you and your spouse are walking this road, you know the grief is real and the strain on your marriage can be significant. The questions are constant, and the future can feel uncertain. Barren Not Broken is a podcast from Legacy Place, a ministry devoted to encouraging and equipping couples navigating infertility, loss, and childlessness. Our heart is to help marriages thrive, not just survive, and to empower couples to shape a legacy that reaches beyond their circumstances. Hosted by Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf, married 25 years, who experienced 19 years of infertility, three miscarriages, and now live as a childless couple not by choice but by circumstance, they have redefined and they're living a legacy centered on a happy & healthy marriage. This podcast offers honest conversations and real stories from couples and trusted professionals who understand this journey firsthand. Each episode provides practical tools to strengthen communication, navigate grief together, and rediscover connection in the middle of heartache. You will find encouragement for the hard days, clarity for the next step, and hope that a healthy marriage and a beautiful legacy are still possible. Because no matter the barren places in our lives, we do not have to live broken.

Publisher

Barrennotbroken

Category

religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

19 Mar 2020

Latest episode

9 Jun 2026

Latest episodes

6 of 57 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   9 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT

   No Heartbeat. And a Marriage That Refused to Die.

   In this interview, Jesse and Cindy Mizell share with Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf how they navigated profound grief and kept their marriage strong after losing three babies.

2. 

   12 May 2026TRANSCRIPT

   The Slow Fade Nobody Saw Coming and the Daily Choice That Brought Them Back

   James and Teri Craft, Founders of Marriage Health, share their personal journey of overcoming marital disconnect through daily intentional choices, offering hope for couples in crisis.

3. 

   28 Apr 2026TRANSCRIPT

   "Is Choosing IVF a Betrayal of My Faith?" — An Honest Conversation

   Nate and Kala Sipple were told they would never have children. Eleven years of infertility, stage four Endometriosis, IVF, embryo loss, and a faith crisis later, they're sitting down with Jason and BonnieRuth Rolf on the Barren Not Broken podcast to share what no one prepared them for... This conversation covers the real questions couples face: Is IVF a betrayal of faith? How do you grieve what's missing while celebrating what you have? And how do you heal a marriage that carried the weight of something it was never warned about? Nate and Kala navigated a total of 11 years of infertility. 7 years before their first son and 4 years before their twins were born. They get the ups and downs, the disappointments, the fears and the waiting. Nate is one of the Associate Pastors at New Tribe Church in Mount Juliet, TN. Kala is home educating their 3 miracle boys; Grayson 10, Sterling and Hendrix are both 6. They have been serving the local church for over 15 years together, and have been married for almost 19 years.

Inside a recent episode

No Heartbeat. And a Marriage That Refused to Die.

Published 9 Jun 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] Yeah. Can we actually open the verse we were talking about? Go. So I'm going to jump way ahead to the middle of the night, the day after we lost our Arvania 39 weeks. I was praying and the Lord gave me a verse and I told him he was wrong. One of those. It was one of those that, I mean, you know, you're in the throes of it. And like, I'm looking for a verse that just like rest in my arms and be held and loved. And like, so this is what he gives me. And he wasn't wrong. He was 100% right, as I think today's a testament to. But Matthew 5, 16 says, in the same way, let your light shine before others so they may see your good works and glorify your Father who's in heaven. […]

Who has been a guest on Barren not Broken

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• Jesse Mizell
• Cindy Mizell
• James Craft
• Teri Craft

Reach and audience

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Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

36 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 27 / 100

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Quality

34

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

51

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