Welcome to Beats Working, where Dan Rogers explores what it really means to redeem work. Through real conversations with leaders and builders, this show goes beyond titles and hustle to uncover the patterns shaping how we live and work. It’s not about climbing ladders—it’s about learning how to play the game from where you are. Because when who you are aligns with what you do, it doesn’t just feel better—it beats working.

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Welcome to Beats Working, where Dan Rogers explores what it really means to redeem work. Through real conversations with leaders and builders, this show goes beyond titles and hustle to uncover the patterns shaping how we live and work. It’s not about climbing ladders—it’s about learning how to play the game from where you are. Because when who you are aligns with what you do, it doesn’t just feel better—it beats working.
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Recent Episodes

April 20, 2026
From Boeing to Bakery: Building a Business Without a Blueprint with Michael Huynh
<p>What if success isn’t something you plan, but something you discover? In this episode, Dan T. Rogers sits down with Michael Huynh, founder of Macadons, to explore a journey shaped by uncertainty, curiosity, and quiet persistence. From growing up as the son of Vietnamese refugees to navigating years of “figuring it out,” Michael shares how a simple holiday gift turned into a thriving business, and what it taught him about quality, identity, and choosing your own way of working. </p><p>Takeaways: </p><p>• There’s no single “right way” to build a career, only the way that aligns with you </p><p>• Curiosity and iteration often outperform rigid planning </p><p>• Quality and intention can be more powerful than speed and scale </p><p>• Systems matter, but so does questioning them </p><p>• Growth often comes from embracing uncertainty, not avoiding it </p><p>Timestamps: </p><p>[03:14] — Michael’s origin story: From refugee roots to Seattle upbringing </p><p>[05:13] — Struggling with school and not fitting the traditional path </p><p>[08:00] — Landing at Boeing and believing that was “the plan” </p><p>[08:39] — The accidental start of Macadons as a holiday gift </p><p>[11:25] — The long process of refining the product through feedback </p><p>[12:54] — The “chocolate chip cookie” analogy that reframes everything </p><p>[16:37] — Challenging systems at Boeing and rethinking efficiency </p><p>Resources & Links: </p><p>-Michael Huynh: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-huynh-a25436196/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a> </p><p>-Macadons: <a href="https://macadons.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MacadonsSeattle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/macadons/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a> </p><p>-Dan T. Rogers: <a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bio</a> </p><p>Connect with Us: </p><p>-Website: <a href="http://www.beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.beatsworkingpodcast.com</a> </p><p>-LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/beats-working-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working Podcast</a> </p><p>-Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beatsworkingpodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>-Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/beatsworkingpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working</a> </p><p>-YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BEATSWORKINGPODCAST" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>Follow & Subscribe: </p><p>If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Your feedback helps us improve and reach more listeners. </p><p>Send Feedback: </p><p>If you have a show idea, feedback, or just want to connect, email us at <a href="mailto:info@beatsworking.show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">info@beatsworking.show</a>. </p><p><a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beats Working</a> is a platform on a mission to redeem work—the word, the place, and the way. We believe that work is the most honorable act in the universe, and through inspiring stories and practical insights, we want to transform the way people think about work and help them discover greater fulfillment in their lives. We invite you to join us as we build community through sharing and actively demonstrating what we learn. </p>

April 20, 2026
Turning ADHD into a Leadership Advantage at Work with André Brisson
<p>What if the thing you’ve been trying to manage… is actually your advantage? </p><p>In this episode, Dan sits down with engineer, entrepreneur, and host of The Impulsive Thinker Podcast, André Brisson, to explore what happens when you stop forcing yourself to fit the system and start redesigning the system around your wiring. </p><p>From bridging theory and tangible solutions on construction sites to navigating a life-altering ADHD diagnosis, André shares how unmanaged strengths can sabotage you and how clarity turns them into fuel. This is a conversation about pruning the non-essential, choosing ideal clients, and building work around your Unique Ability instead of your weaknesses. </p><p>If you’ve ever felt stuck in the wrong game, this episode is a blueprint for re-engineering your own. </p><p>Takeaways: </p><ul><li>Problem-solving isn’t about complexity, it’s about clarity. </li><li>ADHD isn’t a deficit; it’s a different operating system. </li><li>Unmanaged strengths become liabilities. Managed strengths become leverage. </li><li>Ideal clients are required; not optional. </li><li>Growth isn’t about more money; it’s about more capability. </li></ul><p>Timestamps: </p><p>[00:01] — Bridging theory and tangible problem-solving </p><p>[09:00] — Leaving partnership to reclaim growth and agency </p><p>[17:30] — The diagnosis that reframed 40 years </p><p>[20:00] — The hunter vs. farmer analogy for ADHD </p><p>[24:04] — The ADHD Simplified Model (Inertia, Timeframe, Inhibition) </p><p>[28:40] — Stop fixing weaknesses. Lean into strengths. </p><p>Resources & Links: </p><p>-The Impulsive Thinker: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@theimpulsivethinker" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">YouTube</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/theimpulsivethinker/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a> & <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theimpulsivethinkerpodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a> </p><p>-Dan T. Rogers: <a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bio</a> </p><p>Connect with Us: </p><p>-Website: <a href="http://www.beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.beatsworkingpodcast.com</a> </p><p>-LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/beats-working-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working Podcast</a> </p><p>-Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beatsworkingpodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>-Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/beatsworkingpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working</a> </p><p>-YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BEATSWORKINGPODCAST" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>Follow & Subscribe: </p><p>If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Your feedback helps us improve and reach more listeners. </p><p>Send Feedback: </p><p>If you have a show idea, feedback, or just want to connect, email us at <a href="mailto:info@beatsworking.show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">info@beatsworking.show</a>. </p><p><a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beats Working</a> is a platform on a mission to redeem work—the word, the place, and the way. We believe that work is the most honorable act in the universe, and through inspiring stories and practical insights, we want to transform the way people think about work and help them discover greater fulfillment in their lives. We invite you to join us as we build community through sharing and actively demonstrating what we learn. </p>

April 20, 2026
Building a Real Estate Business That Gives Back with Katrina Romatowski
<p>What if wealth wasn’t measured by what you accumulate, but by what you’re able to give back? </p><p>In this episode of Beats Working: Winning the Game of Work, Dan T. Rogers sits down with real estate entrepreneur and social purpose founder Katrina Romatowski. A mom of six and founder of three purpose-driven companies, Katrina is redesigning how homeownership works in neighborhoods many believe are out of reach. </p><p>From creating housing stability for foster youth to pioneering shared ownership models in Seattle, Katrina’s story is about challenging inherited beliefs, rethinking outdated paradigms, and building businesses that fill your tank instead of draining it. </p><p>This isn’t just about property development. It’s about developing possibility. </p><p>Takeaways: </p><ul><li>Purpose before profit is a long game, but it wins. Katrina structured her brokerage as a social purpose corporation from the start. </li><li>Stability unlocks agency. Level Up provides housing and mentorship to foster youth aging out of the system. </li><li>Wealth is having more than enough to give back. Financial, emotional, and relational wealth all count. </li><li>Density isn’t the goal, livability is. ReSpace designs homes for how people actually thrive. </li><li>Shared ownership changes the paradigm. You don’t have to rent or own alone; there’s a third way. </li></ul><p>Timestamps: </p><p>[00:00] — Meet Katrina: Mom of six, founder of three companies </p><p>[03:00] — Creating Level Up for foster youth </p><p>[06:30] — Profit and purpose as equal drivers </p><p>[11:30] — “I felt like an outsider looking in” </p><p>[18:00] — Questioning inherited worldviews </p><p>[24:00] — Why traditional real estate models waste potential </p><p>[29:00] — Shared ownership and hyper-affordable housing </p><p>[35:00] — Designing for livability over density </p><p>Resources & Links: </p><p>-Katrina Romatowski: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrinaeileen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a> </p><p>-reSpace: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/respacecohomeownership" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a> & <a href="https://www.instagram.com/respace_inc/www" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a> </p><p>-Dan T. Rogers: <a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bio</a> </p><p>Connect with Us: </p><p>-Website: <a href="http://www.beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.beatsworkingpodcast.com</a> </p><p>-LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/beats-working-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working Podcast</a> </p><p>-Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beatsworkingpodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>-Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/beatsworkingpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Beats Working</a> </p><p>-YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BEATSWORKINGPODCAST" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@beatsworkingpodcast</a> </p><p>Follow & Subscribe: </p><p>If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Your feedback helps us improve and reach more listeners. </p><p>Send Feedback: </p><p>If you have a show idea, feedback, or just want to connect, email us at <a href="mailto:info@beatsworking.show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">info@beatsworking.show</a>. </p><p><a href="https://beatsworkingpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beats Working</a> is a platform on a mission to redeem work—the word, the place, and the way. We believe that work is the most honorable act in the universe, and through inspiring stories and practical insights, we want to transform the way people think about work and help them discover greater fulfillment in their lives. We invite you to join us as we build community through sharing and actively demonstrating what we learn. </p>
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