About Better Safe than Sorry – Cyber Talks with Security Leaders
In this podcast, we delve into various aspects of cybersecurity, inviting global security leads to discuss trends, the impact of new concepts and regulations, talent retention, and more through one-on-one discussions.
Redefining Cybersecurity Leadership in the AI Era with Aathir Ahad
In this episode, Adrien Havette hosts Aathir Ahad to discuss the evolving challenges and focus areas for CISOs. They delve into the shift from merely securing systems to enabling business growth through smart risk-taking and partnerships. The conversation highlights the integration of security in AI, cloud, and data to build trust without hindering progress. The discussion also addresses the reality and future of Zero Trust, emphasizing it as an ongoing journey. Aathir provides insights on the dual role of AI as both a defense tool and a weapon for attackers, stressing the importance of adaptability. Lastly, they cover the critical role of strong identity and access management in building a robust security foundation in today's digital era.
(01:11) The Evolution of Cybersecurity Leadership
(02:57) The Future of Zero Trust
(04:19) AI in Cybersecurity: Shield and Sword
(05:19) Prioritizing Security Controls
7 Dec 2025
Securing the Future: Anthony Grieco's Insights on Cyber Threats
In this episode of the 'Better Safe Than Sorry' podcast, Adrian Havette from Wipro Switzerland's Cybersecurity Practice interviews Anthony Grieco, Senior Vice President and Chief Security and Trust Officer at Cisco. They discuss the evolving threat landscape, the impact of AI on cyberattacks, the importance of upgrading network infrastructure, and the debate between platform-based and best-of-breed cybersecurity approaches. The conversation also covers microsegmentation in IT and IoT environments, best practices for enhancing cyber resilience, and effective strategies for retaining top cybersecurity talent. Tune in for insightful expertise on navigating today’s complex cybersecurity challenges.
(01:10) Emerging Trends in Cyber Attacks
(03:16) Platform Play vs. Best of Breed Solutions
(05:34) Microsegmentation and IT/OT Security
(09:07) Retaining Top Cybersecurity Talent
31 Jul 2025
Cyber Leadership and SOC use cases : Best Practices with Fernando Cocaro
In this episode, Nico welcomes Fernando for an in-depth discussion about transitioning from traditional SIEMs to NextGen platforms. Fernando stresses the importance of aligning SIEM migration with business strategies and outcomes. He emphasizes the need to define a clear business case, select platforms that meet modern detection needs, and execute a phased rollout. Fernando also talks about the importance of reducing noise in SOC through automation and effective alert management. In addition, he advises on the critical communication between CISOs and CIOs, translating technical risks into business impacts. Finally, the conversation touches on key strategies for retaining cybersecurity talent, focusing on purpose, growth, and wellbeing.
(00:26) Challenges of Migrating to NextGen SIEM
(01:36) Strategic Planning for SIEM Migration
(04:29) Best Practices for SOC Alert Management
(08:20) Effective Communication Between CISO and CIO
(11:04) Talent Retention in Cybersecurity
29 May 2025
The Impact of AI on Digital Identity with Kristie Pfosi
Kristie Pfosi, CISO at Marelli, examines AI's impact on digital identity and cybersecurity, addressing data transparency concerns and passwordless authentication during an interview.
31 Mar 2025
AI Security Challenges in the Pharma Industry with Jonathan Sinclair
In the sixth episode of the 'Better Safe Than Sorry' podcast, host Nico Capitoni engages in a discussion with Jonathan Sinclair, the head of cybersecurity at Roche Pharma. The conversation focuses on the evolution of cybersecurity in the pharmaceutical industry due to AI-driven digitalization, discussing topics like unified platforms versus best-of-breed strategies, data protection complexities, and the importance of effective talent retention strategies. Jonathan shares his insights on the increasing role of cybersecurity leaders, the challenges with data governance, and the need for creating a fun and engaging work environment to retain top talent.
Chapters
(00:44) Jonathan Sinclair's Background and Expertise
(01:52) Evolution of the Cyber Lead in Pharma with the AI motion
(03:21) Unified Platforms vs. Best-of-Breed Strategies
(05:18) Challenges in Data Protection
(08:36) Talent Retention in Cybersecurity
(11:24) Conclusion and Final Thoughts
28 Nov 2024
Exploring OT Security and Compliance – with Alex Rodriguez
Nicolas interviews Alex Rodriguez, CISO, on OT security and compliance, emphasizing the importance of comprehensive strategies in protecting assets and data from diverse energy types and architectures.
30 Oct 2024
Beyond Buzzwords: Zero Trust Implementation and Challenges – with Florian Buschor
Host Nico Capitoni dives into the world of Zero Trust with Florian Buschor, Senior Information Security Officer at Georg Fischer. They explore the nuances of the Zero Trust model, from its core principles to vendor differences and the practical challenges of implementation. Florian sheds light on strengthening identity security through advanced measures like multi-factor authentication and AI-driven threat detection. Additionally, the discussion touches on the dual role of AI in cybersecurity as both an opportunity and a threat. To wrap up, Florian offers valuable advice on retaining top security talent, emphasizing hands-on vocational training and fostering a supportive work environment.
Chapters:
(01:15) Diving into Zero Trust Strategy
(03:54) Enhancing Identity Security with Zero Trust
(06:35) AI in Cybersecurity: Opportunity or Threat?
(08:14) Retaining Security Talent
17 Sept 2024
Building a Purpose-Driven Security Culture – with Paige Adams
In this episode, Nico hosts Paige Adams, Group Chief Information Security Officer at Zurich Insurance, to discuss the evolution of Security Operations Centers (SOC) and the growing SIEM market. Paige offers insights on transitioning to modern SOC solutions, emphasizing the importance of phased implementation, stakeholder engagement, and continuous improvement. The conversation also touches upon the complexities of compliance in the financial sector, particularly with evolving regulations and the integration of AI technologies. Paige concludes by sharing his strategies for retaining top talent, focusing on creating a purpose-driven culture, fostering continuous learning, and promoting a collaborative environment.
Chapters:
(00:10) The Evolution of SOC and SIEM
(02:29) Transitioning to a Modern SOC
(05:26) Compliance Challenges in Financial Services
(10:02) Retaining Top Talent in Cybersecurity
23 Jul 2024
Staying ahead of emerging threats with Rafael Villoria Ferrer
In this episode, host Nico Capitoni discusses key strategies to foster cybersecurity awareness and employee training within organizations with his guest, Rafael Villoria Ferrer, Deputy CISO & Global Head of SOC at Nestlé. Rafael emphasizes the importance of making cybersecurity relatable to employees' professional and personal lives, and the need for on-the-spot training.
Rafael also highlights the role of threat intelligence and agility in staying ahead of emerging threats, the challenges posed by regulatory changes, and the necessity of a strong partnership with the legal function. Further, he explores effective security strategies, the value of zero trust principles, and the importance of a strong security hygiene foundation combining SOAR and Breach Attack Surface. Rafael also shares advice on retaining top talent through transparency, challenging projects, and a people-first culture.
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction to Cybersecurity Awareness and Training
(01:40) Staying Ahead of Emerging Threats and Regulations
(04:55) Effective Strategies for Improving Security Posture
(07:58) Retaining Top Cybersecurity Talent
(09:15) Conclusion and Final Thoughts
20 Jun 2024
Navigating Current Cybersecurity Trends with Gomeet Pant
In this inaugural episode of Better Safe Than Sorry, your host Nico Capitoni, Cyber Practice Head at Wipro Switzerland, chats with Gomeet Pant, Group VP and Global IS Manager for Security Technology Services at ABB. They delve into the top cybersecurity trends to watch, including the evolving regulatory landscape, rapid cloud innovation, and the significant impact of AI. The discussion further explores cloud security advancements and the critical role of AI in both enhancing security measures and countering adversarial actions. Finally, they share insights on talent retention strategies within the booming cybersecurity industry, emphasizing personalized approaches to meet individual needs and keep top talent engaged.
Chapters
(00:48) Meet Our First Guest: Gomeet Pant from ABB
(01:22) Top Cybersecurity Trends to Watch
(03:49) Deep Dive into Cloud Security
(06:15) The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity
(09:12) Strategies for Talent Retention in Cybersecurity
(12:51) Conclusion
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