by Jeremy Miller
Beyond UX Design’s mission is to give you the tools you need to be a truly effective UX designer by diving into the soft skills they won’t be teaching you in school or a boot camp. These soft skills are critical for your success as a UX professional.
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April 24, 2025
<p>In this episode, I chat with Thomas Wilson, a veteran service designer, who challenges the conventional product-first approach in software and highlights the importance of broad, strategic thinking in design.Is the software industry focusing too much on products?</p><p>Thomas Wilson thinks we’re ignoring the value our core services bring.In this episode, I chat with Thomas Wilson, a seasoned design veteran with a deep understanding of human-centered UX. Thomas has some concerns with the way software is being designed and built right now, but it’s not all bad. There are some things we can do to ensure we build the right thing.It all starts with the concept of the “Iceberg of Ignorance,” revealing how only a fraction of organizational problems are known to top executives. This is a problem when the people at the top start making decisions without much insight into the actual problems. This ultimately leads to misguided product-level decisions.Thomas emphasizes the pitfalls of a product-first approach, by highlighting its limitations in addressing user needs and the broader scope of services. He critiques the trend of minimizing the role of design leaders in favor of product-driven strategies.His fix? Embracing the essential role of service design in creating comprehensive services and experiences. He argues for the integration of CX and Service Design into broader business strategies. This requires a shift from simple usability to a holistic service design approach. This is where true innovation and user satisfaction lie.Our discussion also explored the potential of designers in product management roles, where their human-centered expertise will greatly influence product development. Thomas addresses the challenges faced by UX professionals in current industry practices. He advocates for a more empowered and strategic role for service designers.These insights provide a fresh perspective on the role of design in shaping not just products, but entire service ecosystems. Thomas’s vision for a design-led approach to business strategy resonates with anyone passionate about creating meaningful user experiences.<strong>Topics:</strong>• 07:26 – Iceberg of Ignorance• 08:35 – We aren’t sharing from the bottom• 10:53 – What’s wrong with Product First?• 17:03 – What’s wrong with calling everything a product?• 19:01 – Usability is surface design• 22:21 – Focusing on product stops working when services span products• 26:17 – The service exists whether you design it or not• 28:48 – Service Designers zoom out and zoom in as needed• 30:03 – Designers would make great product managers• 31:25 – What’s wrong with players/coaches?• 39:24 – Things are broken, but how can we fix it?• 49:03 – CX vs UX• 58:56 – Understanding power and influence and stakeholder management</p>
April 17, 2025
<p>This week, Edward Chechique joins me to discuss rethinking design careers, ditching outdated career advice, and learning how to survive (and thrive) in 2025’s chaotic job market. We talk layoffs, AI, content creation, side hustles, and redefining what it means to be a UX pro today.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>What if your job title doesn't define your career? What if your "career" wasn’t the point at all?</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>We were told that if we worked hard, got good at UX, and built a solid portfolio, we’d be fine. But in 2025, none of that seems to be working. In this episode, I sit down with Edward Chechique to talk about what happens when the traditional path to career success just… stops working.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edward has been laid off, ghosted, and judged by hiring managers who didn’t get it. So he stopped waiting. He built his own path—from writing and content creation to launching products and teaching others how to use AI to work smarter. This isn’t a fairytale story about becoming a millionaire. It’s about regaining your agency and deciding what you want from your career.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you're tired of trying to fit into boxes that never seemed to fit quite right, this episode is your permission slip to stop waiting for the industry to come save you—and start building a version of success that actually works for you.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Topics:</strong><br />• 02:46 - Redefining Careers in Design<br />• 03:17 - Interview with Edward Chechique<br />• 04:59 - Edward's Journey in Design<br />• 09:10 - Navigating the Job Market<br />• 13:32 - Adapting and Diversifying Skills<br />• 16:24 - Entrepreneurial Mindset and Self-Employment<br />• 27:10 - Challenges and Realities of Self-Employment<br />• 30:38 - Entrepreneurial Upbringing vs. Traditional Employment<br />• 31:55 - Navigating Financial Uncertainty<br />• 33:33 - Saving Strategies and Lifestyle Choices<br />• 38:49 - Cultural Shifts and Economic Impact<br />• 41:42 - Closing Thoughts</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Helpful Links:</strong><br />• <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwche/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Connect with Edward on LinkedIn</a><br />• <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@edwche" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Watch Edward on YouTube</a><br />• <a href="https://medium.com/@edwche" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Follow Edward on Medium</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---Thanks for listening! We hope you dug today’s episode. If you liked what you heard, be sure to like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts! And if you really enjoyed today’s episode, why don’t you leave a five-star review? Or tell some friends! It will help us out a ton.If you haven’t already, sign up for our email list. We won’t spam you. Pinky swear.---Support our sponsors!Ok web designers. Let’s talk about the “c” word—creative burnout.You’re working on a site for a really big client, but between resourcing, feedback, tight budgets and even tighter deadlines—it doesn’t make the cut. Wix Studio helps close that gap, so you can deliver your vision with less friction. Built for agencies and enterprises, you get total creative control over every last pixel. With no-code animations, AI-powered tools, reusable design assets, advanced, intuitive layout tools and a Figma to Wix Studio integration, you can design the way you want to and deliver when you need to.And if you’re worried about the learning curve eating into time you don’t have—don’t be. Wix Studio is intuitive by design, so your entire team can hit the ground running.For your next project, check out wixstudio.com</p>
April 10, 2025
<p>Discover how Stefon Towler's 5/15/5 framework transforms stakeholder relationships by understanding what truly drives decisions. Learn a systematic approach to uncovering stakeholder priorities and crafting messages that resonate with decision-makers at every level.</p><p><strong>What if you could predict exactly how your stakeholders would respond to your ideas before you even present them?</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>Stefon Towler brings deep insight into the psychology of stakeholder decision-making, revealing how understanding their true priorities can transform resistance into support. His practical approach helps teams move beyond surface-level presentations to create genuine alignment with stakeholder needs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Throughout our conversation, Stefon breaks down how his 5/15/5 framework helps teams understand the real motivations driving stakeholder decisions. He shares examples of how teams have used this approach to transform their relationships with executives, product managers, and cross-functional partners.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whether you're trying to influence process changes or secure buy-in for major initiatives, this episode provides actionable strategies for understanding and aligning with stakeholder priorities. Listen now to learn how to move beyond presentations and start creating true stakeholder partnerships.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Topics:</strong><br />• 04:17 – Stefan’s Journey and the 5-15-5 Framework<br />• 07:09 – Applying the 5-15-5 Framework<br />• 11:50 – Finding the Right People for Insights<br />• 18:42 – Identifying Patterns and Crafting Messages<br />• 33:53 – Reaching Out on LinkedIn: A Journey to Mentorship<br />• 34:56 – The Importance of Providing Value in Networking<br />• 36:30 – Improving the QA Process for UX Design<br />• 38:43 – Identifying Key Players and Crafting a Guide<br />• 48:33 – Iterating and Testing Messages<br />• 51:03 – Common Pitfalls and Tips</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Helpful Links:</strong><br />• <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/towlerstefon/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Connect with Stefon on LinkedIn</a><br />• <a href="https://www.insightandinnovate.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Insight & INNOVATE</a></p><p><br /></p><p>---</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for listening! We hope you dug today’s episode. If you liked what you heard, be sure to like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts! And if you really enjoyed today’s episode, why don’t you leave a five-star review? Or tell some friends! It will help us out a ton.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you haven’t already, sign up for our email list. We won’t spam you. 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Let’s talk about the “c” word—creative burnout.</strong></p><p><br /></p><p>You’re working on a site for a really big client, but between resourcing, feedback, tight budgets and even tighter deadlines—it doesn’t make the cut. Wix Studio helps close that gap, so you can deliver your vision with less friction. Built for agencies and enterprises, you get total creative control over every last pixel. With no-code animations, AI-powered tools, reusable design assets, advanced, intuitive layout tools and a Figma to Wix Studio integration, you can design the way you want to and deliver when you need to.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you’re worried about the learning curve eating into time you don’t have—don’t be. Wix Studio is intuitive by design, so your entire team can hit the ground running.</p><p><br /></p><p>For your next project, check out <a href="https://www.wixstudio.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">wixstudio.com</a></p>
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