Deep conversations are a whole love language, and we're going there!
Talking about many different topics, from the mundane to the taboo--we'll make it complicated, we'll hopefully create a little empathy and decrease judgment of others along the way.
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What good is all this listening and learning if we don’t learn to apply it? Let us show you one of the ways we do that. Integration through processing and tying the loose ends together. You’ll see us circle back to topics and bring a new perspective or caveat as we do.
This is our season 4 finale! We’ll be back for season 5 sometime late summer/early fall…as soon as we can get our plan settled. Thanks for allowing space for us to be multidimensional beings.
Resources we mention in this episode:
Jason Lang (https://www.instagram.com/evolutionarymen/) and Melanie Curtin (https://www.melaniecurtin.com/)
Evolutionary Men (https://evolutionary.men/)
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9 Jul 2026
Episode 80 - Revisiting Partnership Over Hierarchy in a Marriage
Revisiting part 3 of our relationship series from season 1. It ends with us saying a bunch of big words, but words that changed the game for us. If things like “differentiation,” “enmeshment,” and “co-create” are new-ish to you, hopefully there’s something good in this listen for you to take to your own relationships.
Join the chat, and let’s talk about what we’re learning together!
Some links to a few of the articles, etc. we discuss in the episode:
https://www.crucible4points.com/crucible-four-points-balance/ (https://www.crucible4points.com/crucible-four-points-balance/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmeshment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enmeshment)
https://www.simplypsychology.org/attachment.html (https://www.simplypsychology.org/attachment.html)
https://psychcentral.com/relationships/why-you-need-a-strong-sense-of-self-and-how-to-boost-it (https://psychcentral.com/relationships/why-you-need-a-strong-sense-of-self-and-how-to-boost-it)
https://www.thebowencenter.org/differentiation-of-self (https://www.thebowencenter.org/differentiation-of-self)
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2 Jul 2026
Episode 79 - Revisiting Vulnerability in Male/Female Relationships
We are throwing it back to a 3-part series we originally recorded at the beginning of season 1, revisiting the conversation, woven into this season about individual and relationship growth. This is part 2 of the 3 episodes.
There’s a lot of discussion about relationships and vulnerability, but it seems that men have a bit of a bad rap in this particular arena. But what does culture AND the women in their lives have to do with it? Let’s chat about whether or not we want men to even BE vulnerable, and if so, how do we encourage it?
SHOW NOTES:
Brene Brown’s TEDx talk about shame:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/emasculation (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/emasculation)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/violence-against-women_b_1959746 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/violence-against-women_b_1959746)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/18slkug/thoughts_on_the_word_emasculate/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/18slkug/thoughts_on_the_word_emasculate/)
https://onbeing.org/blog/jonathan-p-higgins-what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man/ (https://onbeing.org/blog/jonathan-p-higgins-what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man/)
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/nov/13/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man-reader-responses#:~:text=I%20can%20cook%2C%20clean%2C%20buy,more%20open%20and%20fulfilling%20fashion (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/nov/13/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man-reader-responses#:~:text=I%20can%20cook%2C%20clean%2C%20buy,more%20open%20and%20fulfilling%20fashion)
https://www.themix.org.uk/your-body/mens-health/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man-in-2018-29605.html#:~:text=It%20means%20not%20being%20afraid,and%20uplifting%20those%20around%20you.%E2%80%9D (https://www.themix.org.uk/your-body/mens-health/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man-in-2018-29605.html#:~:text=It%20means%20not%20being%20afraid,and%20uplifting%20those%20around%20you.%E2%80%9D)
https://www.utdailybeacon.com/opinion/columns/making-of-man-what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man/article_1a9f5836-2068-11ec-abd1-f3615d73f13d.html (https://www.utdailybeacon.com/opinion/columns/making-of-man-what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man/article_1a9f5836-2068-11ec-abd1-f3615d73f13d.html)
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol45/iss3/1/#:~:text=Most%20Mormons%20have%20heard%20of,from%20the%20effects%20of%20exposure (https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol45/iss3/1/#:~:text=Most%20Mormons%20have%20heard%20of,from%20the%20effects%20of%20exposure)
https://brycox.com/lds/BryCox-SweetwaterRescue.pdf (https://brycox.com/lds/BryCox-SweetwaterRescue.pdf)
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3783&context=byusq (https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3783&context=byusq)
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