Blak N White with Tammy and Nathan Baart

About Blak N White with Tammy and Nathan Baart

Educating, advocating and amplifying Indigenous Perspectives and Knowledges, Ways of Being, Thinking and Doing to bridge the gap and translate between two worlds. For people who want to listen, learn, unlearn and relearn about honouring Aboriginal culture. Walk together on a journey towards reconciliation and understanding the effects of colonisation in this land we call Australia. Never stuck in problem-based discussion, we delve into actions and strategies. WARNING: This may be triggering for Indigenous viewers. To find out more about Blak Ignited, visit https://www.facebook.com/blakignited

Publisher

Blak N White

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

17 Jun 2023

Latest episode

11 Apr 2026

Latest episodes

21 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   11 Apr 2026

   Compliance or Curiosity? Why Following the Rules Isn’t Changing Anything

   Most people think change comes from doing the right thing. Following the policy. Using the right language. Ticking the boxes. ...But what if compliance is actually the thing holding us back? In this episode of Blak N White, we explore the tension between compliance and curiosity — and why one keeps systems exactly as they are, while the other creates the conditions for real change. Because compliance looks like progress… but often it’s just control, safety, and risk management dressed up as action. And when that happens, people stop asking questions. They stop reflecting. They stop growing. Curiosity, on the other hand, asks something different. It invites discomfort. It challenges assumptions. It requires us to look at ourselves, our systems, and the impact we’re having — even when it’s inconvenient. In this conversation, we unpack: How compliance shows up in organisations, schools, and leadership spaces Why “doing the right thing” doesn’t always lead to meaningful change The risks of performative action and box-ticking approaches What curiosity looks like in practice — beyond surface-level questioning How to move from compliance → reflection → responsibility Why curiosity is essential for cultural intelligence, allyship, and systems change This episode is an invitation to pause and ask: Am I following the rules… or doing the work? Because real change doesn’t come from compliance alone. It comes from the courage to stay curious — and the responsibility to act on what you find. If this episode challenges how you’ve been approaching the work — stay with it. That’s where growth begins! #BlakNWhite #CulturalIntelligence #Allyship #Leadership #SystemsChange

2. 

   23 Mar 2026

   When Shame Takes Over… Nothing Changes

   Most people think shame is part of doing this work properly. But what if shame is actually the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode of Blak N White, we unpack the difference between shame and restoration — and why confusing the two can stop real change before it even begins. When shame takes over, people don’t step forward. They shut down. They get defensive. They go quiet or they centre themselves in ways that shift the focus away from what actually matters and when that happens… nothing changes. But there is another way. Restoration doesn’t remove responsibility — it grounds it in relationship, repair, and forward movement. In this conversation, we explore: How shame shows up in allyship, leadership, and organisations Why shame often leads to silence, avoidance, or performative responses The difference between being called in… and collapsing What restoration looks like in practice — not just intention How to stay present in discomfort without centring yourself Moving from reaction → responsibility → repair This is about helping people do better — in ways that protect relationship, accountability, and Indigenous agency because the goal isn’t to sit in shame. It’s to restore what’s been impacted — and change how we show up moving forward.

3. 

   2 Feb 2026

   Ownership or Stewardship? The Choice Shaping How We Lead and Live

   What happens when we confuse ownership with responsibility? In this episode of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan unpack a powerful tension shaping leadership, systems, workplaces, and everyday relationships: Ownership — a dominant Western way of being Stewardship — an Indigenous way of being Ownership prioritises control, possession, authority, and individual entitlement. It asks, “What’s mine?” and “How do I protect or manage this?” Stewardship, through an Indigenous lens, asks something deeper: What am I responsible for caring for — even if I don’t own it? This episode explores: How ownership thinking shows up in leadership, education, organisations, and systems Why stewardship is relational, ethical, and grounded in obligation rather than control The impact each approach has on people, Country, culture, and future generations Everyday, recognisable examples of both Ways of Being in action This conversation invites listeners to slow down and reflect: Where have we been taught to claim, manage, or extract — instead of care, protect, and honour? To go deeper, the Our Systems, Our Stories reflective card deck visually contrasts dominant Western conditioning with Indigenous Ways of Being, offering a practical tool for dialogue, reflection, and change. 🔗 Explore the cards via Blak Ignited: https://www.blakignited.com.au/resources (https://www.blakignited.com.au/resources) This episode is about remembering our role as stewards — not owners — of people, systems, and the future.

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