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- 2021
- First episode
About But What Do We Know?
By exploring issues of race, xenophobia and equity in America, two twenty-somethings, Zoe and Daniel, talk about their experiences living in New York City and how their diverse backgrounds have informed the way they navigate today’s society. This pair has a lot to say, but then again... what do they know?
- Publisher
- Zoe & Daniel
- Category
- society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- Yes
- First episode
- 30 May 2021
- Latest episode
- 27 Sept 2021
Latest episodes
18 episodes in the feed.

27 Sept 2021
New York, New York
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week Zoe and Daniel play another round of "Guess That Word." The duo decides to slow things down this week and reminisce on their lives in the big apple. Daniel reflects on the culture shock he experienced when he first arrived in NYC from Guyana while Zoe chats about how easy the MTA system was for her in comparison to driving in the suburbs. Be sure to tune in and let us know what you think! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod

20 Sept 2021
Monuments: What They Say About Us
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel sit down to chat about the recent removal of the Robert E. Lee statue in Virginia. The statue was originally installed about 130 years ago and was the largest confederate statue in Richmond, VA. Over the past several years, we have seen confederate statues across the U.S. get vandalized and we've seen movements like Black Lives Matter and Indigenous groups fight for their removal. We take a moment to unpack what these monuments really represent and why their removal cause so much controversy across different communities. Daniel also compares the statues we see in the U.S. to the monuments that he is used to seeing in Guyana, and the duo chat about why those differences might exist. Be sure to let us know what you think! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Robert E. Lee Statue: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/08/1035004639/virginia-ready-to-remove-massive-robert-e-lee-statue-following-a-year-of-lawsuit. http://guyanainc.biz/tourism-and-culture/african-monuments-and-museums-in-guyana/ https://guyanachronicle.com/2016/05/01/guyanas-monuments-sites/

13 Sept 2021
Ground Zero: Reflection & Self Care
TW: SUICIDE AWARENESS Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel celebrate their first time back recording together after a short hiatus. The duo take a moment to reflect on the terrifying, real-life nightmare that was 9/11, 2001. Zoe and Daniel describe what they remember from that day and encourage you all to visit the 9/11 Memorial and Museum in downtown NYC. Daniel reminds us that September is Suicide Prevention Awareness Month and the duo encourage us all to think about how we take the time out of our days and weeks to practice self-care. What's your version of self-care? Alone time? Bestie spa days? Let us know how you take the time to wind down and recharge. We hope you enjoyed this episode and be sure to let us know what you think! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (24/7 help is available): 800-273-8255

10 Sept 2021
Chat with Daniel: Week In Review
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week Daniel sits down for a solo chat and gives you all some life updates! He also chats about Biden's recent proposed vaccine mandate and suicide awareness month. Be sure to tune in to catch up with Daniel and let us know what you think! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod

2 Sept 2021
Chat with Zoe: Week In Review
Welcome back to another episode of But What Do We Know! This week, please enjoy this solo chat with Zoe as she updates us on what's been going on in the world this past week. (Daniel, we really missed you!) Zoe focuses on the Texas abortion ban and also provides resources for assistance and relief funds as a result of the disaster that Hurricane Ida has caused across the nation. Please take a look at the resources and informational pages linked below! Texas Abortion Ban: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/health/texas-abortion-law-facts.html Hurricane Ida Links to receive help/donate: https://nola.eater.com/2021/8/30/22649109/how-to-help-resources-new-orleans-louisiana-hurricane-ida House of Tulip: Request Help Form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdpy0T101btnt_qNcle-dK9tAbRRFvlrOWQeBUcGEkaJoAVmg/viewform Donate: https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/

16 Aug 2021
CRT: Critical To Whom?
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel catch us up on their weeks and their school prep. Daniel brings up reincarnation and the pair discuss which animal they would like to be reincarnated as if they were able to choose. The topic of this week is Critical Race Theory and the backlash that has come as more and more public schools push to integrate such teachings into their curriculums. The duo ask each other why this pushback exists and what kind of damage this lack of awareness does to our society as a result. Be sure to tune in and let us know what you think. All discussions are welcome! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Brookings Article: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/

9 Aug 2021
Black Enough: Generations Divided
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel celebrate the poll participation that's been seen on instagram and discuss the conversations they've had with peers regarding the catcalling episodes. Daniel, a Guyanese immigrant and Zoe, a Black Bi-racial American discuss the ever-present tension between their respective racial groups. There has long been competition within the African diaspora and it can especially be seen between Black Caribbeans and Black Americans. We attempt to unpack what might be causing this tension as we discuss socioeconomic status, stereotypes passed down by grandparents, and how we have seen these harmful paradigms in action within our own generation. This topic hits close to home for us as well as for many of our listeners. We are not experts nor the gospel on this topic but we are so eager to hear what our listeners think about this! Feel free to shoot us a message on instagram - all discussions are welcome. Happy listening! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Articles: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-11-25-mn-6855-story.html https://www.theglobalist.com/african-americans-african-immigrants-differ/

2 Aug 2021
Catcalling - Part II
(TW: SEXUAL HARASSMENT) Welcome back to another episode of But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel catch us up on their work lives and their respective experiences with lost Airpods. We celebrate the fact that this is our TENTH episode and we reflect on not only how far we've come but how grateful we are for our loyal listener base. We love hearing your feedback and opinions with each new episode we release and we are so thankful to exchange thought with all of you! If you're listening, THANK YOU! This episode, we expand on the conversation we had last week regarding catcalling and we explore the intricacies of this topic a bit deeper. Daniel shares how Guyanese and general Caribbean culture sees catcalling a bit differently while Zoe wonders if men can really be "catcalled" the same way women are. This episode is an interesting one and we encourage you to let us know what you think! Be sure to send us a message or leave us a written review on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening! IG: @butwhatdoweknow

26 Jul 2021
Catcalling - Part I
(TW: SEXUAL HARASSMENT) Welcome back to another episode of But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel catch us up on their lives and share some exciting news regarding the upcoming academic year! We are providing a trigger warning for this episode as we are discussing issues of sexual harassment and sexual assault. We know these are issues that affect every and anybody in very different ways so discretion is advised. We get into conversation around whether men can be catcalled the same way women are and how misogyny affects the power dynamic at play with these issues. Daniel and Zoe both share personal experiences and talk about where they draw the line, if a clear line regarding catcalling can even be drawn. Be sure to tune in and contribute to the conversation by messaging us on instagram or leaving us a review on Apple Podcasts. IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Catcalling definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/catcalling

19 Jul 2021
The Unwritten Law
Welcome back to another episode of But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe tells us about her first experience getting scammed while Daniel shares how he's been staying committed to his fitness routine. As a follow up from our last episode, we discuss the ways in which Black people and POC are targeted in today's society. We explore how this issue can be seen in a few areas, emphasizing the "War on Drugs" and its racist history as well as the way Black people and POC are viewed in the athletic field. We chat about the "unwritten law" of what Black people are unfortunately robbed of when it comes to basic human decency. As always, we would love for you to let us know what you think about this episode and if anything we spoke about resonates with you. Feel free to shoot us a message on instagram and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Thanks for listening. IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Code Switch Podcast "A Weed Boom, But For Whom?": https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5ucHIub3JnLzUxMDMxMi9wb2RjYXN0LnhtbA/episode/MDliZTBkMTUtNTQ1Mi00YWJiLWE0MWQtNGMwZWRhYzk2M2I3?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ-YvI0_DrAhUGtlkKHT09Cp4QkfYCegQIARAF https://www.npr.org/transcripts/551878709 Dr. Carl Hart: https://www.insider.com/columbia-professor-carl-hart-legalize-drugs-heroin-for-grown-ups-2021-2 https://www.complex.com/life/carl-hart-columbia-professor-heroin-every-day Racist Soccer Comments: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/12/1015239599/prince-william-and-boris-johnson-denounce-the-racist-abuse-of-englands-soccer-te https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57848106

12 Jul 2021
What's Going On?
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel chat about their fitness journeys and how they are both trying to get more active. We also share some exciting news and life events that we are both looking forward to. As we dive into the meat of this episode, we tackle some of the pressing issues that have been in our headlines the past few weeks. We start off by discusing what exactly is a "Karen" and we share some examples using videos that have been going around on social media. We also talk about the Sha'Carri Richardson incident and give our differing takes on the issues as a whole. As always, we would love to hear what you think so feel free to shoot us a message on instagram or leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Thanks for listening! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Zoe's Workout Class: https://instagram.com/j_sthetics?utm_medium=copy_link UPS Karen: https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ90P0KFmSv/?utm_medium=copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ90P0KFmSv/?utm_medium=copy_link) New Jersey Racist: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQ_TUiGJQHL/?utm_medium=copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQ_TUiGJQHL/?utm_medium=copy_link) Sha'Carri: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/why-cant-olympians-smoke-weed https://sports.yahoo.com/sha-carri-richardson-olympic-absence-140036467.html?guccounter=1 History of Weed Criminalization: https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/14/201981025/the-mysterious-history-of-marijuana

5 Jul 2021
A Deeper Look
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, we slow things down a bit in light of the NYC heat wave and rain showers. We catch up with one another about #VenmoItForward and play another round of "Guess That Word." We take the time this week to let our listeners learn a little more about our backgrounds and upbringing. We realize we've been talking about a lot of the issues that we think about day-to-day but we haven't really explained where we come from and how our perspectives have been shaped. This episode, you get to learn a little more about Daniel's first day in the U.S. and Zoe's first time she realized she was mixed. With plenty of laughter in-between, this episode is not one to miss! As always, let us know what you think! P.S. leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod

28 Jun 2021
Let's Unpack: Whitewashing
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe introduces us to her cats as Daniel wonders why Uber prices in NYC have risen exponentially lately. The pair dive into the topic of discussion, whitewashing, and break down this phenomenon when it comes to cultural foods, pop culture, and relationships/identity. For example, Zoe talks about how whitewashing cultural foods can be damaging to minority cultures. Daniel encourages us to think about the role that Hollywood plays in whitewashing historical events. As usual, the duo has many laughs in-between as they unpack the many layers of Whitewashing and how it can be seen in our everyday lives. We would love to know what your take is on this issue, so be sure to let us know by leaving us a review on Apple podcasts or chatting with us on IG! Keep up with us on IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whitewash Examples of Whitewashing: https://www.rd.com/list/examples-of-whitewashing/ Hollywood Whitewashing: https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/hollywood-whitewashing-25-roles-emma-stone-jake-gyllenhaal-scarlett-johansson/drive-2011/

21 Jun 2021
Behind The Curtain
Welcome Back to But What Do We Know! This week, Zoe and Daniel both channel their inner teacher as they dive into the historical context of Juneteenth and the Guyanese equivalent, Emancipation Day. Zoe talks about the details of the events that unfolded surrounding June 19th in 1865 and why this day is celebrated and recognized as the day of Black Freedom. Daniel gives us a detailed history of Emancipation Day in Guyana which occurred on August 1st, 1834. As Zoe and Daniel walk us through this history, we learn about some of the parallels and differences between American and Guyanese history in terms of Black freedom. The duo also goes a bit deeper to examine the modern-day realities and implications of these two holidays, and they ask themselves: Are we really free? Of course, Zoe and Daniel update us on their past week in New York City and share some laughs as well. Be sure tune in for your perfect laugh and learn episode! Keep up with us on IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Juneteenth informational links: https://www.history.com/news/what-is-juneteenth https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/the-truth-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule/ https://open.spotify.com/episode/6sPKtUHzH6vKDZwa7NAb3N Emancipation Day informational links: http://exploreguyana.org/event/emancipation/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebjjjs7RJTg

14 Jun 2021
"You're So Exotic"
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! This week, before diving into the topic of discussion, Zoe and Daniel play a little game they call "Guess That Word." Daniel has to guess the meaning of certain Yiddish words that Zoe teaches him and Zoe has to do the same with a few Guyanese words. We later unpack the phrase "You're So Exotic" as we talk about the normalized fetishization and degradation of people with diverse ethnic backgrounds and our personal experiences with this phenomenon. We chat about how we see this type of language appear in mainstream pop culture and we also offer a few suggestions for what you could say instead of the dreaded "What are you?" or "Where are you from?" We understand that not all of our listeners can identify with these experiences and we invite any and all conversation from people of all different backgrounds and viewpoints. We're excited to hear from you and thank you for listening! Keep up with us on IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod Exotic Definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exotic#:~:text=1%20%3A%20very%20different%2C%20strange%2C,from%20Merriam%2DWebster%20on%20exotic Daniel’s YouTube video reference: https://youtu.be/WHCFs_jWuNQ

7 Jun 2021
The Great Debate
Welcome back to But What Do We Know! For this week's episode, we're catching up regarding high school graduation for Daniel's seniors and Zoe's 9-5 chronicles along with her fear of cicadas. We also dive into cultural appropriation and ask ourselves, where do we draw the line? How do we know the difference between cultural appreciation and appropriation? We talk about things like cornrows, the notorious Pepsi commercial and Rachel Dolezal as we try to navigate how we call out appropriation when we see it. We acknowledge that we can only speak from our own perspective, so we mention our friends and peers from different backgrounds that have questions and internal battles regarding this topic as well. We're inviting you to chat with us and let us know your thoughts on cultural appropriation - where do you draw the line? We're excited to hear from you! Rachel Dolezal quote: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/rachel-dolezal-i-wasnt-identifying-as-black-to-upset-people-i-was-being-me Kendall Jenner Tequila: https://www.today.com/food/kendall-jenner-called-out-cultural-appropriation-over-new-tequila-ad-t219232 Chat with us on IG: @butwhatdoweknowpod

31 May 2021
Get To Know Us
Welcome to the first episode of But What Do We Know! This week, we talk about our respective ethnic and racial backgrounds, how we came to be college friends in New York City as well as some of the pressing issues that have been on our minds as we reflect on the past year. Daniel details how he's been wrapping up the school year as a teacher to high school seniors while Zoe talks about her recent job transition from hostessing to working 9-5. Throughout this episode, we challenge you to step outside of your own shoes and confront the unconscious bias you likely have but may not be able to recognize. With playful chatter in between, we're keeping it real and encouraging you to join the conversation. Be sure to let us know what you think! Follow & keep up with us on instagram here: @butwhatdoweknowpod

30 May 2021
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