Called & Human

About Called & Human

Called & Human is a podcast hosted by Randy and Anne Hahne—a pastor and nurse—created for pastors, ministry leaders, and their spouses. Through honest conversations about faith, leadership, marriage, family, and the realities of everyday life, we explore the tension between God’s calling and the human challenges that often go unspoken. Whether you're navigating the pressures of ministry, supporting a spouse in leadership, or stewarding the season God has placed you in, this podcast offers encouragement, practical insight, and the reminder that you can be called—and still be human.

Publisher

Randy and Anne Hahne

Category

religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

1 Aug 2026

Latest episode

9 Nov 2026

Latest episodes

9 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   9 Nov 2026

   Church Hurt: How to Heal Without Leaving the Church | Called & Human Ep 8

   Hurt by the church? After 21 years in ministry, we’ve been hurt by people in the church, and we’ve hurt people too. In this episode, we talk honestly about healing from church hurt, forgiveness, and how to move forward without letting it derail your faith or your calling. People hurt you. Jesus didn’t hurt you. We also talk about the difference between church hurt and spiritual abuse. Abuse should never be tolerated or excused, and if it’s happening, report it. This conversation is about hurt and conflict between people, and how to work through it with wisdom, support, and grace. 📥 Free download: Processing Church Hurt Reflection Guide⁠https://called-human.kit.com/3a1ea10791⁠ (https://called-human.kit.com/3a1ea10791) In this episode: Church hurt vs. spiritual abuse What Paul and Barnabas’ disagreement teaches us about conflict How unresolved hurt turns into bitterness Counseling, prayer, and releasing the pain Forgiveness isn’t saying it was okay Why leaving every time you’re hurt can become a pattern Unity, reconciliation, and moving forward Chapters00:00 When hurt happens in church00:53 Welcome and the topic of church hurt04:06 Church hurt vs. spiritual abuse05:27 Paul and Barnabas’ disagreement10:10 Processing hurt and seeking healing13:28 Counseling, prayer, and releasing pain15:46 Giving yourself grace18:05 Taking initiative for a hard conversation19:32 Forgiveness is not saying it was okay20:02 When leaving becomes a pattern21:48 Reconciliation in Matthew 524:09 Unity in Psalm 13327:17 Moving forward after church hurt28:15 People hurt us, Jesus didn’t29:41 Recommended resources31:07 Closing prayer32:04 Thanks for listening Scripture: Acts 15:36–41 • 2 Timothy 4:11 • Romans 12:18 • Matthew 5:23–24 • Psalm 133 • Exodus 30:22–33 Resources mentioned: The Bait of Satan by John Bevere Unoffendable by Brant Hansen Watch on YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@calledandhuman⁠ (https://youtube.com/@calledandhuman)Instagram: @calledandhuman If this episode helped you, follow the show, leave a rating, and share it with someone who needs encouragement. New episodes every other Monday.

2. 

   26 Oct 2026

   Raising Pastor's Kids: What Every Ministry Parent Needs to Know | EP 7

   Anne and Randy share the joys and pressures of raising children in ministry, including how to nurture faith without carrying the weight of a child’s spiritual choices. They discuss the expectations and challenges pastors’ kids can face, and how families and churches can offer support, prayer, and grace. In this episode Why Proverbs 22:6 is wisdom, not a guarantee Modeling faith at home and making intentional time for kids Supporting pastors’ kids without shame or unrealistic expectations Listening to children and protecting their stories Loving children unconditionally through every stage of faith Timestamps00:00 - Opening and listener encouragement03:32 - Raising pastors’ kids05:27 - Trusting Jesus with children’s hearts06:25 - Proverbs 22:6 as wisdom, not a guarantee12:40 - Modeling faith at home13:27 - Making intentional time for kids19:34 - Challenges pastors’ kids can face20:30 - Why shaming a pastor’s kid is harmful24:51 - How churches can support ministry families27:19 - Avoiding negative talk about church around kids30:37 - Getting permission before using kids’ stories35:26 - Releasing guilt when a child’s faith journey changes37:44 - Unconditional love through every faith stage41:29 - Prayer for pastors’ kids and ministry families Podcast Recommendations: ”Whoa That's a Good Podcast: Finding Faith Beyond My Family | Sadie & Christian Huff | Priscilla, JC & Jackson Shirer https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whoa-thats-good-podcast/id1433974017?i=1000770890630 Between Sundays with The Chandlers: When Your Child Walks Away From Jesus: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays-with-the-chandlers/id1687888418?i=1000791087083

3. 

   12 Oct 2026

   Marriage and Ministry: How to Prevent Burnout and Protect Your Family

   Marriage and Ministry: How to Thrive as a Team in Every SeasonRandy and Anne talk candidly about being married in ministry and why a strong marriage matters for a healthy ministry. Drawing on more than 20 years of serving together, they share practical lessons about changing seasons, capacity, boundaries, and staying united as a team.Key topics Randy and Anne open with prayer and discuss the launch of their podcast. They reflect on different seasons of ministry, including internships, rural pastoring, and church planting. They explain why it’s important to steward the season you’re in instead of comparing your life with someone else’s. Anne shares how comparison can steal joy and why couples can dream together while staying content in the present. They discuss protecting against resentment, bitterness, and unrealistic expectations. Randy and Anne describe ministry as a shared calling and emphasize the importance of recognizing each other’s capacity. They talk about burnout and adjusting ministry rhythms when one spouse is carrying too much. Anne discusses the difficulty of saying no and references Kay Warren’s Sacred Privilege when talking about limits and boundaries. They share practical ways to protect family time and be more present at home. They emphasize offering encouragement after preaching, leading, or taking risks in ministry. They close by encouraging couples to see themselves as a team with a shared vision. Chapters00:00 – Prayer for ministry marriages 00:50 – Podcast launch and episode introduction 04:50 – Family life and the current season 07:05 – Why marriage and ministry need attention 08:28 – Looking back on different seasons of ministry 10:20 – Expectations and changing seasons 11:06 – Stewarding the season you’re in 12:26 – Comparison, contentment, and dreaming together 13:39 – Protecting against resentment and bitterness 14:21 – Ministry as a shared calling 15:15 – Burnout and recognizing capacity limits 16:55 – Checking ministry rhythms and expectations 18:08 – Support, rest, and being present 19:40 – Avoiding pressure to fit a ministry stereotype 21:28 – Limited capacity and saying no with grace 24:09 – Choosing family priorities 25:50 – Boundaries that protect marriage and family 28:38 – Practical boundaries and interruptions 29:29 – Protecting your family while serving others 30:20 – Recharging and staying healthy 31:19 – Encouragement instead of constant criticism 33:14 – Supporting your spouse after ministry moments 35:00 – Closing thoughts on thriving as a team Marriage and ministry can strengthen one another—or slowly wear a couple down. Randy and Anne share honest insights on navigating changing seasons, limited capacity, and the pressures ministry couples face while protecting their relationship and family.They discuss how to steward the season you’re in, resist comparison, set healthy boundaries, prevent burnout, and encourage one another. This episode offers practical encouragement for pastors, ministry couples, and anyone balancing family life with serving others.

4. 

   28 Sept 2026

   12 Marriage Habits That Keep Love Strong in Real Life

   In this episode, Randy & Anne Hahne share a fast-paced set of practical marriage insights drawn from 21 years of marriage, parenting four kids, and ministry life. The conversation focuses on everyday habits that help couples communicate better, stay united, and build a healthier home.They also talk openly about the realities of life with kids, how to handle conflict well, and why small choices like tone, timing, and appreciation matter so much. Key topics In this episode, Anne and Randy open with a candid life update about school prep, kid activities, camping, and the chaos of recording with children at home. They discuss why tone matters early in a relationship and how verbal and nonverbal communication shape how disagreements are received. Anne shares the value of avoiding absolutes like “you always” and “you never” and using “I feel” statements instead. They talk about entering conflict to understand, not to win, and making sure both spouses feel heard. The conversation highlights the importance of reminding each other, “I love you and we're on the same team.” They discuss choosing the right time and place for crucial conversations, especially when both people are rested and emotionally available. Anne explains how to approach the honeydew list by explaining the why behind requests and bringing things up when they can actually be addressed. They emphasize giving each other space to be human, including grace for quirks, messiness, fatigue, and basic needs like food and sleep. They talk about speaking well of your spouse publicly and refusing to join in spouse-bashing culture. They discuss the need for a united front in parenting, including not contradicting each other in front of the kids. They share how healthy disagreement can actually be good for children to witness, as long as they also see resolution and affection. They walk through the five love languages and how each spouse needs to be intentional about expressing love in the way the other receives it best. They encourage couples to pray together, even if it feels awkward, as a way to invite God into decisions, conflict, and daily life. They support each other’s friendships, activities, and individual needs without guilt or resentment. They discuss the importance of checking in emotionally, especially when one spouse tends to skip over feelings. They finish with practical financial wisdom, including the importance of a shared budget, open communication, and examining fear-based money habits. Timestamps 00:00 - Opening banter, family chaos, and getting ready to talk marriage 02:19 - Life update: school prep, kid activities, and summer transitions 05:53 - Why they wanted to talk about marriage and shared blind spots 11:29 - Setting the tone early in conflict 14:14 - Avoiding “you always” and “you never” language 15:09 - Choosing understanding over winning arguments 16:25 - “We're on the same team” and fighting for the marriage 16:54 - Timing and place for crucial conversations 18:16 - Handling the honeydew list without nagging 20:31 - Why appreciation and follow-through matter 21:25 - Giving each other space to be human 22:55 - Speaking well of your spouse in public 25:25 - Being united in parenting decisions 27:13 - Letting kids see healthy disagreement and healthy affection 28:40 - The five love languages and staying intentional 31:05 - Praying together as a couple 33:29 - Meeting basic human needs like sleep, food, and rest 35:45 - Supporting friendships and activities outside the marriage 38:02 - Checking in emotionally and asking better questions 39:29 - Money fights, shared finances, and budgeting 41:50 - Final encouragement and listener response Connect with us: Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠ Linktree: ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠calledandhuman@gmail.com⁠⁠

5. 

   14 Sept 2026

   What Church Planting Taught Us About Faith, Fear, and Timing

   Stepping Out in Faith Within MinistryIn this episode, Anne walks through how to discern God’s leading when you’re facing a major ministry decision. The conversation focuses on practical ways to test a calling, from Scripture and prayer to wise counsel, mutual peace in marriage, and checking motives.They also share their own journey from rural ministry in Carrington, North Dakota, to planting Harvest Valley Church in Fargo during the pandemic, showing how God often confirms big steps through many smaller ones.Key topics In this episode: how to tell the difference between God’s leading and a bad idea Why Scripture is the first filter for any major decision The role of prayer and fasting when you’re in a waiting season Why journaling impressions, Scriptures, and convictions can help clarify direction The importance of wise counsel from Spirit-led people Why married couples need mutual peace before stepping into ministry assignments How conventional wisdom can miss what God is doing in an unconventional season Their church planting journey from Carrington to Fargo, including conference, coaching, and confirmation How small steps like debt reduction, saving, housing, jobs, and daycare all lined up before the move What can block faith: fear of man, fear of failure, comfort, kids, and wrong motives Why checking your motives matters before claiming “God told me” Compare the calling against Scripture first Set aside time for prayer and fasting Write down impressions, Scriptures, and confirmations Seek counsel from people who love the Lord and can speak honestly Make sure both spouses have peace before moving forward Identify the next small step, not just the final destination Share your next step with someone you trust Timestamps00:00 - Five-year anniversary and opening the conversation 02:08 - Introducing the episode topic: stepping out in faith 05:25 - Why discerning God’s leading matters in ministry 08:58 - The first test: does it align with Scripture? 09:56 - Prayer and fasting in the waiting season 11:45 - Journaling convictions and Scripture impressions 13:27 - Wise counsel from Spirit-led people 15:50 - Why mutual peace matters for married couples 17:36 - Be careful not to lean on conventional wisdom alone 19:58 - Their path from Carrington to Fargo 21:54 - The church planting conference that clarified the calling 24:04 - Big callings are made up of many small steps 25:24 - How God lined up daycare at the right time 27:41 - The pandemic, the board meeting, and one more confirmation 29:03 - The dream that brought peace and confidence 30:04 - Obstacles you should expect when stepping out in faith 31:01 - Fear of man, fear of failure, and the pull of comfort 34:51 - The impact of ministry decisions on kids 36:46 - Waiting for perfect circumstances will keep you stuck 39:30 - Why “God told me” should not be a trump card 40:58 - Checking whether you’re running toward obedience or away from discomfort 45:48 - Practical next steps for someone sensing a calling 47:15 - One step at a time: obedience in daily surrender 48:14 - Having people in your corner who cheer you on 49:40 - How to connect with the podcast and keep the journey going Action items Compare the calling against Scripture first Set aside time for prayer and fasting Write down impressions, Scriptures, and confirmations Seek counsel from people who love the Lord and can speak honestly Make sure both spouses have peace before moving forward Identify the next small step, not just the final destination Share your next step with someone you trust Connect with Us Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3⁠⁠⁠ Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠calledandhuman@gmail.com⁠

6. 

   31 Aug 2026

   Imposter Syndrome in Ministry

   ## Key Points ### Keywords imposter syndrome, ministry, human moments, gospel, church, self-worth, identity, comparison, prayer, personal growth ### Summary In this episode of the Called in Human Podcast, hosts Randy and Ann Hani explore the theme of imposter syndrome, particularly in the context of ministry. They share personal experiences and insights on how to navigate feelings of inadequacy and the pressure to perform. The conversation emphasizes the importance of gospel realization, humility, and the need for a supportive community. Practical steps to combat imposter syndrome are discussed, including the significance of prayer and focusing on one's identity in Christ. ### Takeaways Imposter syndrome is a common struggle in ministry. Recognizing God's faithfulness can alleviate feelings of inadequacy. Gospel realization is key to overcoming imposter syndrome. It's important to share feelings of inadequacy with a trusted person. Our identity in Christ is not based on performance. Comparison can lead to feelings of unworthiness. Faithfulness to one's calling is more important than size or success. Prayer is essential in navigating ministry challenges. Humility is crucial in ministry leadership. God uses us despite our flaws and shortcomings. ### titles Conquering Imposter Syndrome in Ministry The Human Side of Ministry Challenges Finding Identity Beyond Performance Navigating the Pressure of Ministry ## Sound Bites 00:00 "God, this is gonna take a miracle." 11:34 "I felt like such a fake." 12:02 "We all struggle with feeling unqualified." 21:44 "What I do have is Jesus Christ." 30:45 "It's about God using me to minister to others." 35:18 "God uses us despite us." 44:08 "Bigger is not always better." 44:37 "We just need to be faithful to our assignment." 45:04 "The power of prayer is essential." ## Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Human Moments 10:12 Understanding Imposter Syndrome 19:58 The Role of the Gospel in Overcoming Imposter Syndrome 29:45 Navigating Ministry Challenges and Comparison 39:55 Practical Steps to Combat Imposter Syndrome Connect with Us Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman) Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman) TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3) Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman) Email: ⁠⁠⁠calledandhuman@gmail.com⁠ (mailto:calledandhuman@gmail.com)

7. 

   31 Aug 2026

   The Invisible Weight of Leadership

   The Invisible Weight of Leadership This episode looks at the hidden pressure that comes with leadership, especially in ministry, and why so many leaders carry stress, comparison, financial strain, and spiritual tension in silence. Anne and her co-host talk candidly about the real cost of leadership on families, marriage, and personal well-being, while also naming the supports that help people stay healthy and stay called.We discuss why leadership burnout builds over time, how to process pressure in healthier ways, and what pastors and ministry families need most from their communities. Key topics In this episode: the “invisible weight” of leadership is not just emotional, it affects marriage, family life, and spiritual health. Anne and her co-host note that ministry pressure often comes from internal expectations, not just external demands. They reference the tension between feeling called and feeling exhausted, including stories of wanting to quit or questioning whether ministry is still sustainable. A research snapshot is discussed: one figure suggests 24 percent of ministry workers are thinking about leaving, while another suggests only 1 to 1.2 percent actually leave. The episode highlights how comparison can distort leadership confidence, especially when leaders measure their own impact against other churches or ministries. A major theme is identity - leaders need their sense of worth, direction, and calling rooted in Christ, not in approval or performance. The conversation names several healthy outlets for pressure: exercise, group fitness, walking, time outdoors, sauna and cold plunge routines, and simply doing things you enjoy. They talk about the cost of ignoring hard conversations and how avoidance can create more anxiety and stress than the conversation itself. Financial pressure is presented as a real ministry burden, especially in seasons of low pay, unexpected expenses, or instability. Spiritual warfare is identified as part of the leadership experience, especially when stepping into new assignments or new seasons. Timestamps 00:00 - Summer life, family schedules, and recording this episode for the third time03:34 - Why leadership carries a weight many people do not see04:24 - Ministry burnout statistics and the reality of wanting to leave05:51 - The hidden pressure on a pastor’s spouse07:20 - Feeling the need to appear put together in ministry09:07 - Imposter syndrome, comparison, and the pressure to have answers10:35 - Why leaders cannot try to meet everyone’s expectations11:05 - Identity in Christ as the foundation for leadership13:16 - Exercise, half marathons, and healthy pressure release14:14 - Sauna and cold plunge as a reset for body and mind15:32 - Why leaders need interests outside of ministry16:59 - What fills the cup: outdoor time, walking, fitness, and connection18:17 - Hard conversations reduce anxiety more than avoidance does20:08 - Financial strain and the temptation to leave ministry21:34 - Learning to trust God again in hard seasons23:29 - Godliness with contentment and resisting comparison24:24 - Spiritual struggle and seasons of doubt26:44 - Spiritual warfare when stepping into something new28:07 - Prayer, practical support, and the power of showing up30:55 - Healthy ways to support leaders without enabling complaint32:25 - Trust, confidentiality, and the need for safe people34:25 - Closing encouragement for ministry leaders and their spousesNotable quotesCopy“You can be called and still be human.”Copy“How do we carry that weight in a healthy way?”Copy“Godliness with contentment is great gain.” Connect with Us Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman) Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman) TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3) Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman) Email: ⁠⁠⁠calledandhuman@gmail.com⁠ (mailto:calledandhuman@gmail.com)

8. 

   31 Aug 2026

   Why we started Called & Human Podcast

   Key Points Keywordspodcast, faith, ministry, personal stories, church planting, challenges, encouragement, leadership, marriage, parenting Summary In the very first episode of the Called and Human Podcast, hosts Randy and Anne share their personal journeys of faith, ministry, and the challenges they faced while planting Harvest Valley Church. They discuss their backgrounds, the call to ministry, and the importance of being honest and vulnerable in leadership. The episode emphasizes God's faithfulness in the midst of human struggles and sets the stage for future discussions on various topics related to faith, family, and leadership. TakeawaysThis podcast is a huge step of faith for us.It's important to share our backgrounds and journeys.I wanted to make an impact in other people's lives.The call to ministry can come in unexpected ways.God is faithful to work in you despite your humanity.We want to be honest and vulnerable in our discussions.Every season of life is unique and different.God is still faithful to build what he's called us to do.Even in challenges, God provides and cares for us.We hope to encourage others through our stories. titlesCalled and Human: Our Journey BeginsFaith and Family: The Story of Randy and Anne Sound Bites 00:00 "This is certainly a huge step of faith for us. "05:55 "I just wanted to make an impact in other people's lives."05:55 "I felt a call into the ministry. "14:07 "God is calling you to impact the nations. "25:37 "We were just like, God, you're so faithful." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Called and Human Podcast 03:38 Anne's Journey: From Childhood to Faith 06:24 Randy's Background: A Life of Change and Faith 10:30 The Call to Ministry: Personal Stories 16:27 Planting Harvest Valley Church: Challenges and Triumphs 28:04 Looking Ahead: Future Topics and EncouragementCopy of Anne Connect with Us Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/calledandhuman) Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/calledandhuman) TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.tiktok.com/@called.human3) Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman⁠⁠⁠ (https://linktr.ee/calledandhuman) Email: ⁠⁠⁠calledandhuman@gmail.com⁠ (mailto:calledandhuman@gmail.com)

9. 

   1 Aug 2026

   Called & Human Podcast Trailer

   Called & Human is a podcast hosted by Randy and Anne Hahne—a pastor and nurse—created for pastors, ministry leaders, and their spouses. Through honest conversations about faith, leadership, marriage, family, and the realities of everyday life, we explore the tension between God’s calling and the human challenges that often go unspoken. Whether you're navigating the pressures of ministry, supporting a spouse in leadership, or stewarding the season God has placed you in, this podcast offers encouragement, practical insight, and the reminder that you can be called—and still be human. Launching August 31st and a new episode shared biweekly!

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