A light hearted take on the (very serious) topic of free speech and cancel culture.
Presented by Delia Burgess and Neil Ganju:
Two Cambridge students, both from Melbourne. One from the inner south east, the other with an Isle of Man arm tatt. One a big leftie, the other not so much. One a fierce advocate for free speech, the other one asking whether cancel culture is real. One a POC and West Coast supporter. The other one not sure whether that is relevant.
Both agree that true diversity and inclusion should involve intellectual and viewpoint diversity, so all opinions welcome here!
Episode 8 - Should the word "breastfeeding" be cancelled?
Fact checking:
Re origins of the wordwife from google: Middle English: probably from the obsolete preposition mid ‘with’ + wife (in the archaic sense ‘woman’), expressing the sense ‘a woman who is with (the mother’).
Sexual orientation was NOT in the census
12 Jan 2022
Episode 7 - Should male candidates be cancelled?
We tried to be structured this episode and ended up rambling more than ever...
0:00 - Delia's next youtube video on a non fiction book (Prisoners of Geography)
16:20 - Neil's take on Djoka
21:20 - The pope's message on cancel culture
24:30 - Podcast feedback from a Cambridge coach - stop interrupting each other / verbally agreeing (but Delia continues doing it)
27:15 - Main topic! Finally. We start talking about quotas and realise we have so much to discuss and don't talk about half the points we each had planned and then end up late for our dinner reservation (delayed podcast Christmas party) so maybe we will continue the chat next time...(as well as explain the arguments and the evidence for the arguments more clearly as they are a bit all over the shop)
21 Dec 2021
Episode 6 - Should Julian Assange be cancelled?
Julian Assange - hero or a villain?
We get right into it on this ep. Should Julian be extradited to the US? What is he guilty of anyway? How does his case relate to freedom of the press?
14 Dec 2021
Episode 5 - Should H&M have been cancelled in China?
In this episode we discuss what happened to H&M in China in March 2021 after a corporate statement on Xinjiang cotton lead to a consumer boycott.
0.00 - Did you know 5% of Australia's population is of Chinese ancestary? We discuss Chinese immigration in Australia and why when talking about "China" it's important to distinguish between people of chinese ethnicity, Chinese people and the CCP.
17:30 - We talk briefly about the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989
22:50 - We get into what happened with H&M and how expressing Xinjiang cotton concerns hurt their business
50:20 - We also touch on Australia's trading relationship with China and the winter Olympic boycott and John Cena of Fast and Furious apologising to China for calling Taiwan a country
This is such a complex topic and the goal has been to show exactly that. It is complex. The other aim of this episode is to share some different views that aren't necessarily portrayed by Western media - different people from different cultures have different values and different perspectives on issues (Sound obvious? It seems we can easily forget this...)
8 Dec 2021
Episode 4 – Should journalists be cancelled for speaking out against their governments?
At the start of the episode Neil says his answer to whether journalists should be cancelled is categorically no. He says this referring to this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner journalists, who we discuss in this episode. However by the end of the episode Delia finds an example of a journalist here in Australia who Neil thinks should be cancelled for speaking against the Victorian government. Happily we always find a way to disagree!
Let us know what you think by voting in the poll!
In this episode we talk about:
0.00 Nobel Prize fun facts
13:30 Russian journalist and 2021 joint Nobel Peace prize laureate Dmitry Muratov who dedicated the award to his six murdered colleagues
21:10 The first Filipino Nobel Prize laureate Maria Ressa, her work at Rappler, coming up against President Rodrigo Duterte and the role of social media in spreading misinformation
40:38 Cartoonist and Australian National Living Treasure Michael Leunig being sacked by the Age for a cartoon on vaccination
30 Nov 2021
Episode 3 - Do cancelled successful people still deserve our compassion?
Hi! It’s Delia. On this ep we discuss:
1. (from 18:40) The best reason to not be racist
(NB: I know I accidentally said 1/3 or 2/3 instead of 3/5 re the US constitution *facepalm*… THIS is why I am setting out to read 100 nonfiction books: shameless plug for my youtube channel follow my journey here – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi9aihDz-_56sshHj8LThaQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi9aihDz-_56sshHj8LThaQ))
2. Whether JK Rowling (from 29:30) and John Mayer (from 41:41) deserve death threats
3. My therapist’s advice on how to deal with trolls (from 51:21)
We also talk a lot about bullying, and mental health. Specifically, I mention my experience with depression (from 37:07), as well as losing my eldest brother to suicide. I am new to talking about this publically and I found this difficult, hence really fumbled over what I was trying to say. Nevertheless I intend to become more confident in speaking openly about my experiences, from a place of empowerment not victimhood. I believe being open about depression and suicide will help fight the stigma that surrounds them. I want to spread awareness and share mental health resources with the goal of empowering individuals to beat this horrible illness.
If you are suicidal please call emergency services or Lifeline in Australia (13 11 14) or message Crisis Text Line in the US (741741) or Shout in the UK (85258)
If you are suffering from depression Beyond Blue has some great resources. Please also tell someone if you haven’t already. Despite what your mind is telling you: you are loved. You are NOT worthless. You can beat this. https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ (https://www.beyondblue.org.au/)
If someone you care about is suffering from depression – read here on how you can help: https://www.beyondblue.org.au/the-facts/supporting-someone/supporting-someone-with-depression-or-anxiety (https://www.beyondblue.org.au/the-facts/supporting-someone/supporting-someone-with-depression-or-anxiety)
Read about depression statistics in Australia here:
https://www.beyondblue.org.au/media/statistics (https://www.beyondblue.org.au/media/statistics)
23 Nov 2021
Episode 2 - Should resurfaced social media posts result in loss of employment?
Opening: Feedback from the first show and host @chaotic_zingerbox being worried about his own social media content
14:00: Main segment - English Cricketer Ollie Robinson and US journalist Alexi McCammond separately losing employment for racist / sexist / homophobic tweets they posted as teenagers
56:00: Teaser for next episode - in regards to cancel culture does mental health matter?
P.S. Following this episode Delia posted on her social media (@deals___) saying the way she presented in this episode doesn't sit right with her: "I think I allowed myself to be pulled on the bandwagon of saying 'wow they were really offensive things that they wrote', when actually I think thats an elitist / hypocritical position to take - my argument is haven't we all said offensive things at some point? Who am I to talk down on the tweets these two made as teenagers?"
16 Nov 2021
Episode 1 - Should Hitler impersonations be banned?
Our first episode!
We discuss the controversy surrounding the Cambridge Union (defender of free speech since 1815) following the 4 Nov 2021 debate where prominent art critic Andrew Graham-Dixon used a Hitler impersonation to argue that there is such thing as bad taste.
The aftermath involved the President being spat on, the creation of a speaker blacklist and subsequent u-turn, and comedian John Cleese blacklisting himself "before someone else does" ahead of his scheduled talk at the Union.
Excuse our awkwardness as we get into our groove (including Delia failing to land a joke about Neil's dating life). Feedback appreciated here or via insta DMs @deals___ @chaotic_zingerbox
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