by North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS)
Cardigan & Collar is the podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS), pursuing theological conversations for the enrichment of pastoral ministry. In each episode, Professor David Luy and Pastor Maurice Lee interview guests, discuss books, trade insights, and seek wisdom, in the conviction that theology is both Christ’s gift to the church and its responsibility. To learn more about the North American Lutheran Seminary visit www.thenals.org
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June 19, 2026
<p><b>What does it mean to be a confessional Lutheran—and why does it matter how you answer that question?</b></p><p></p><p>In this episode, hosts the Rev. Dr. Maurice Lee and the Rev. Dr. Nathan Yoder sit down with Dr. David Luy to unpack the ideas behind his lecture at the 2025 NALC Clergy Retreat. This is the first of two conversation episodes exploring what Luy calls confessions as "a way into riches"—and why how we hold our confessional identity shapes everything about our ministry, our preaching, and our life with God.</p><p></p><p><b>What you'll hear in this episode:</b></p><p>The conversation opens with the origins of the retreat theme itself—why the NALC seminary asked how the church's confessional character should be described, not just defended. From there, Luy introduces the central tension: between a confessionalism that is primarily <i>negative</i> (defined by what we're not) and one that is oriented toward the inexhaustible riches of the Christian faith.</p><p></p><p>Along the way, Maurice and Nathan draw out key themes from the lecture:</p><ul><li>The Peter/Lucy contrast from <i>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</i>—the warrior posture vs. the sense of wonder and adventure</li><li>The dangers of a "keep it simple" approach to doctrine—how reducing the faith to manageable categories can paradoxically produce something thin and brittle</li><li>Edmund Schlink's emphasis on the primacy of doxology—and how it shaped Luy's understanding of what the confessions are <i>for</i></li><li>Wittgenstein's phrase "going on in the same way"—and what it means to be faithful to the confessions without mere mimetic repetition</li><li>The Nestorius/Chalcedon question: what binds us—the theological judgment, or the historical context in which it was made?</li><li>Dietrich Bonhoeffer as an exemplar of confessional faithfulness that never merely sloganeers<p></p></li></ul><p>The episode closes with a teaser for the next conversation: the "parable of the city" and what it looks like to navigate vast theological space with the confessions as a guide rather than a cage.</p><p></p><p><b>Resources mentioned:</b></p><ul><li>Edmund Schlink, <i>Ecumenical Dogmatics</i> (English translation of <i>Ökumenische Dogmatik</i>)</li><li>C.S. Lewis, <i>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</i> and <i>The Last Battle</i></li><li>Charles Porterfield Krauth (referenced in relation to confessional vows)</li><li>Robert Jenson (referenced by Nathan on the use and abuse of slogans)</li><li>The 2025 NALC Clergy Retreat<p></p></li></ul><p><b>Cardigan & Collar</b> is a podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary, pursuing theological conversations for the enrichment of pastoral ministry.</p><p></p><p>🎧 Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.<br />🌐 Learn more about NALS: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="thenals.org" target="_blank">thenals.org</a></p>
June 5, 2026
<p>What does it really mean to carry out ministry <i>in accordance with</i> the creeds and confessions? Is confessionalism just a fence—a list of things we can't say? Or is it something far richer than that?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Maurice Lee and Nathan Yoder offer an on-ramp into Dr. David Luy's lecture, <i>The Lutheran Confessions: A Way into Riches</i>, originally delivered at the 2025 NALC Clergy Retreat. Nathan introduces the lecture through the lens of C.S. Lewis's <i>The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</i>—specifically the moment when Lucy first hears the name of Aslan: not as a call to battle, but as an invitation to summer-holiday wonder.</p><p></p><p>Then Dr. Luy's lecture begins. His central claim: the confessions are not primarily restrictive—they are generative. They function like a well-built well, drawing up the abundant riches of the Catholic and Apostolic faith for those who preach, teach, and pastor from them. A confessional pastor is not one who carries a big club. A confessional pastor is one who feasts.</p><p></p><p>Along the way, Luy explores the vastness of Christian faith across four domains—the triune God, the great deeds of God, Scripture, and the great cloud of witnesses—and argues that the marks of a genuinely generous confessionalism are wonder, <i>enrichableness</i> (his own coinage, borrowed from Tim Keller), and invitation.</p><p></p><p>The episode closes with one of the most memorable lines of the lecture: Luy and Dr. Pierce, he suggests, are something like stray cats who found their way to the NALC—because someone left a saucer of milk on the porch.</p><p></p><p><b>Topics covered:</b></p><ul><li>What ordination vows actually commit a pastor to</li><li>The restrictive vs. generative functions of the Lutheran confessions</li><li>Confessionalism as a posture of wonder, not warfare</li><li>The vastness of God, Scripture, and the cloud of witnesses</li><li>The marks of a generously confessional church: wonder, enrichableness, and invitation</li><li>C.S. Lewis, Bonaventure, Andrew Walls, Blaise Pascal, and Luther's final note</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Subscribe</b> to <i>Cardigan & Collar</i> for theological conversations in the enrichment of pastoral ministry—a podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary.</p><p><br />🎙️ Listen wherever you get your podcasts<br />🌐 thenals.org</p>
May 22, 2026
<p><b>What does it mean to be confessional—and why does it matter now?</b></p><p>In this season premiere, hosts David Luy and Maurice Lee introduce Season 3 of Cardigan & Collar and the theme that will guide it: the confessions as a way into riches. Drawing on four rich presentations from the North American Lutheran Church's 2025 clergy retreat, David and Maurice unpack the season ahead and begin exploring some of the big questions at the heart of it.</p><p>The conversation opens with a deceptively simple question: what exactly is confessionalism? Together, David and Maurice trace the word through its various meanings—confession of sin, confession of faith, the confessions as historical documents—and explore how these senses hold together across past, present, and future dimensions of Christian life.</p><p>Along the way, they reflect on why confessionalism can feel like a burden to modern sensibilities, and why that reaction is worth taking seriously. But they also argue that, rightly understood, confessionalism is better described as a gift—the gift of being given place in a world you did not create, before a God you did not invent, alongside a communion of saints who have gone before you.</p><p>The episode closes by asking what it looks like to hold confessional identity with the kind of posture it deserves: one that recognizes the confessions not as a fence to guard but as a doorway into the inexhaustible riches of God, Scripture, and the great Christian tradition.</p><p><b>Themes in this episode:</b></p><ul><li>What is confessionalism? (And what are confessions <i>for</i>?)</li><li>Confession as a past, present, and future act</li><li>The "burden of catholicity" and confessionalism as gift</li><li>Why modernity resists confessional identity—and why that may be changing</li><li>The confessions as a way into riches: God, Scripture, and the Christian tradition</li><li>The Augsburg Confession's catholic and unifying posture</li></ul><p><b>Season 3 Presenters:</b></p><ul><li>Dr. David Luy — <i>Confessions as a Way into Riches</i></li><li>The Rev. Dr. Orrey McFarland — <i>Confessions and Scripture</i></li><li>Dr. Alex Pierce — <i>Confessions and the Christian Tradition</i></li><li>The Rev. Lara Bhasin — <i>Confessions and Culture</i></li></ul><p><b>Hosts:</b> Dr. David Luy & The Rev. Dr. Maurice Lee <b>Produced by:</b> The North American Lutheran Seminary</p><p><i>If you find these conversations enriching, please subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review.</i></p>
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Cardigan & Collar is the podcast of the North American Lutheran Seminary (NALS), pursuing theological conversations for the enrichment of pastoral ministry. In each episode, Professor David Luy and Pastor Maurice Lee interview guests, discuss books, trade insights, and seek wisdom, in the conviction that theology is both Christ’s gift to the church and its responsibility.
To learn more about the North American Lutheran Seminary visit www.thenals.org
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