On Career Conversations, NACUBO's Christine Simone sits down with higher education professionals to discuss their personal experiences, including successes and challenges of all kinds. They'll offer career advice and insights as well as nuggets of wisdom for business professionals new to higher education.

Career Conversations
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On Career Conversations, NACUBO's Christine Simone sits down with higher education professionals to discuss their personal experiences, including successes and challenges of all kinds. They'll offer career advice and insights as well as nuggets of wisdom for business professionals new to higher education.
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Recent Episodes

May 22, 2026
Curiosity, Mentors, Mission: Adeeb Mozip
<div>Adeeb Mozip is the executive director of business operations in the Office of Enrollment Management at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Mich. His career began as an accounting intern at Michigan's Office of the Vice President for Research, where early mentorship and hands-on work—including multi-million-dollar reporting—revealed how finance supports an institution's core research mission.</div> <div>From there, Mozip moved through roles in research administration, the library system, and Wayne State University's School of Information, earning an MBA while beginning a doctorate. A pivotal chapter came at Wayne State Law School, where he helped a new dean transform the school—taking its U.S. News ranking from 105 to 58 and launching three new academic programs. He returned to the University of Michigan three and a half years ago, now leading HR, finance, budget, and facilities within enrollment management.</div> <div>Mozip credits a broad mentor network—from early supervisors to dissertation advisors—with shaping his leadership philosophy: that leadership means improving the way we serve people. An active NACUBO participant, he has engaged in NACUBO's Emerging Leaders program and chairs CACUBO's conference program committee, most recently receiving the President's Award. His advice to listeners: say yes to projects outside your job description, think beyond your functional area, and take advantage of higher education as a place of continuous learning.</div> <div><strong>LINKS</strong></div> <ul> <li><a href="https://nacubo.org/elp">NACUBO Emerging Leaders Program</a></li> <li><a href="https://cacubo.memberclicks.net/">CACUBO</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aamozip/">Adeeb Mozip on LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Check out NACUBO's other podcasts! <ul> <li><a href="https://learn.nacubo.org/cbo-speaks">CBO Speaks</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.nacubo.org/Online-Education/NACUBO-Podcasts/NACUBO-In-Brief"> NACUBO in Brief</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul>

May 8, 2026
From Public Sector to Public Impact: Sean Clayton
<div><strong>Building a Higher Ed Career Through Reinvention</strong></div> <div>Sean Clayton, associate vice president for business services and controller at Salt Lake Community College (SLCC) in Salt Lake City, Utah, took a non-traditional path to higher education. After co-founding and selling a housewares company, Clayton worked briefly in private equity before the recession revealed a hard truth: entrepreneurial experience alone couldn't land him a comparable role without a degree. He returned to school in his late 30s, completed a bachelor's and a master's in taxation, and landed an internship with the Utah State Auditor's Office—his first real exposure to higher ed.</div> <div>Clayton joined SLCC in 2021 after auditing the institution and connecting with its team. Drawing on his operations background, he tackled food service auxiliaries that had been losing $500,000 annually, ultimately replacing a costly vendor with local restaurants, bringing auxiliaries into the black while better serving a diverse student population. He has since risen to his current role and now sits on SLCC's Cabinet Team, bringing a finance and strategy lens to institution-wide decisions.</div> <div>A 360 evaluation early in his business career forced a reckoning with an authoritarian leadership style he hadn't recognized in himself. The experience prompted emotional intelligence training and a lasting shift toward collaboration—one later affirmed through a second 360 during NACUBO's Emerging Leaders program. His advice to listeners: be innovative, let your people fail, and make empathy a practice.</div> <div><strong>Links</strong></div> <ul> <li>Check out NACUBO's other podcasts! <ul> <li><a href="https://learn.nacubo.org/cbo-speaks">CBO Speaks</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.nacubo.org/Online-Education/NACUBO-Podcasts/NACUBO-In-Brief"> NACUBO in Brief</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul>

January 30, 2026
Puzzles, Pathways, Progress: Jodi Kessler
<div><strong>Higher Ed Tax Expert Shares Career Journey from Criminal Law to Global Operations</strong></div> <div>Jodi Kessler, director of tax and global operations at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in Cambridge, Massachusetts, discovered her passion for tax law while studying criminal law at Ohio State University. After taking a tax class that presented the field as an engaging puzzle with clear rules and strategic planning opportunities, she shifted her focus and began her higher education career at Ohio State in 2008, later moving to Harvard before settling at MIT.</div> <div> </div> <div>At MIT, Kessler's role has expanded significantly beyond traditional tax work to encompass investment analysis, unrelated business income tax, sales tax, and most recently, global operations. She leads evaluations of international employee placement and compliance, working closely with departments across campus to reduce institutional risk while supporting MIT's mission. Her collaborative approach emphasizes building relationships early and providing high-level customer service to break down institutional silos.</div> <div> </div> <div>Networking through NACUBO has been instrumental in Kessler's professional development, particularly during major transitions like implementing the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. She emphasizes that today's frequent tax rule changes create ongoing opportunities for newcomers to develop expertise, noting that success comes from understanding how to process changes, interpret legislation, and work with peer institutions. Through her leadership, Kessler aims to leave a legacy of cross-departmental collaboration that ensures all voices are heard while maintaining compliance and supporting institutional goals.</div> <div> </div> <div><strong>Links</strong></div> <ul> <li>Check out NACUBO's other podcasts! <ul> <li><a href="https://learn.nacubo.org/cbo-speaks">CBO Speaks</a></li> <li><a href="https://learn.nacubo.org/nacubo-in-brief">NACUBO in Brief</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul>
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