CFB Talks Digital Assets
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<p><strong>CFB Talks Digital Assets is the home of informed conversation about crypto from CF Benchmarks.</strong></p><p>We are the first and leading digital asset index provider, authorized and regulated by the UK FCA.</p><p>Respected and innovative financial institutions use our indices and reference rates to power regulated financial instruments, like listed derivatives, investment funds and structured products.</p><p>Join CF Benchmarks’ <strong>Head of Content, Ken Odeluga, Head of Research, Gabe Selby, CFA</strong> and <strong>Research Analyst, Mark Pilipczuk, </strong>as they talk with some of the most accomplished and influential figures in finance, about everything affecting digital assets — crypto protocols, markets, fund flows, on-chain metrics, macroeconomics and more.</p>
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Recent Episodes
August 6, 2026
Signs of a Bitcoin Bottom, Vault Adoption & The Fed's September Meeting
<p>Has Bitcoin bottomed and what could determine its next move?</p><p>Recorded live on August 6, 2026, this episode of CF Benchmarks X Space examines Bitcoin’s performance relative to gold and the Nasdaq, the growing adoption of on-chain asset-management vaults, and the outlook for the Federal Reserve’s September meeting.</p><p>CF Benchmarks Head of Research Gabe Selby, CFA, is joined by Research Analyst Mark Pilipczuk; Kraken Chief Economist Thomas Perfumo, CFA; CF Benchmarks Senior Product Manager James Flamant; Head of Business Development Peter Stern; and special guest André Dragosch, PhD, Director and Head of Research for Europe at Bitwise.</p><p>The panel begins with Bitcoin near $64,000, Brent crude below $80 and a softer-than-expected ADP employment report. They assess whether Bitcoin has formed a bottom, what market breadth and return dispersion suggest about the broader cycle, and which indicators they are watching next.</p><p>The conversation then turns to on-chain asset-management vaults: how they work, where they sit on the adoption curve, and why curation, valuation and round-the-clock creation and redemption introduce risks that investors must understand. The episode closes with a discussion of oracle reliability, the safeguards needed for on-chain derivatives, and whether a September rate hike is now off the table.</p><p>Chapters:</p><p>01:38 – Meet André Dragosch: Bitwise Europe's Research Chief</p><p>06:45 – Market Snapshot: Bitcoin at $64K, Brent Below $80 & a Soft ADP Print</p><p>08:34 – Has Bitcoin Bottomed? The Relative-Value Case vs Gold & the Nasdaq</p><p>13:32 – CFB's Market Cycle Engine: Market Breadth, Return Dispersion & a Still-Bearish Structure</p><p>17:41 – What Thomas Perfumo is Watching</p><p>23:00 – James Shares What's on His Watchlist</p><p>24:06 – A View From Sales: The Summer Lull & the Wealth-Platform Unlock</p><p>25:12 – On-Chain Asset Management: What a Vault Actually Is</p><p>28:26 – Curation, Valuation & 24/7 Create-Redeem: The Index Provider's View</p><p>34:58 – Where Vaults Sit on the Adoption Curve</p><p>44:01 – Oracle Robustness: The Weakest Link in On-Chain Derivatives</p><p>52:15 – Rapid Fire: Is a September Rate Hike Dead?</p><p>59:24 – Week Ahead: NFP, CPI, ETP Flows & CLARITY's Last Gasp</p><p>1:07:27 – Closing Remarks</p>
July 30, 2026
Post-FOMC Debrief, Treasury Companies Under Pressure & CLARITY Stalls Again
<p>In the latest CF Benchmarks live X Space, recorded July 30 2026, Head of Research Gabe Selby, CFA is joined by Research Analyst Mark Pilipczuk, Kraken Chief Economist Thomas Perfumo, CFA, and special guest Tyler Evans, Co-Founder and Chief Investment Officer of UTXO Management.</p><p>Tyler is a career Bitcoiner. He co-founded BTC Inc, the publisher behind Bitcoin Magazine and The Bitcoin Conference, before launching UTXO Management, a Bitcoin-native asset manager focused on asymmetric opportunities across public and private markets.</p><p>The Fed held for a fifth consecutive meeting with three regional presidents dissenting in favor of a hike, the most unified dissent since 2016. The 30 year yield closed at its highest level since 2007. Q2 GDP came in at 1.5% against expectations near 2.1%. Strategy raised another $544 million of common equity without buying a single Bitcoin. And with the Senate's August recess days away, the CLARITY Act remains stuck behind an unresolved ethics provision. The panel works through what all of it means for Bitcoin, treasury companies, and the broader crypto market.</p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 – Intro & Team Welcome</p><p>04:02 – Grading Warsh's Second Press Conference</p><p>08:14 – Three Inflation Shocks & the Case for a Hold Through Year-End</p><p>12:52 – The Yen at 40-Year Lows & the Carry Trade Read-Across</p><p>14:24 – Is the Fed Losing Control of the Long End?</p><p>16:22 – Yield Curve Control: Playing Against the House</p><p>20:47 – GDP Misses at 1.5%: Soft Headline, Firmer Internals</p><p>23:08 – Best Case, Worst Case: Oil, Tariffs & the AI Capex Wobble</p><p>26:07 – The K-Shaped Economy & Why the US Is Insulated</p><p>28:42 – Dissent Contagion & Volatility Sequencing Across Assets</p><p>31:25 – Saylor on Defense: Cash Reserve, Dilution & STRC Buybacks</p><p>34:56 – Rebuilding mNAV: Aligning Equity Accretion With Bitcoin Per Share</p><p>37:32 – Stretch at $89: Betting Against Strategy Means Shorting Bitcoin</p><p>41:15 – Digital Asset Treasuries: Throwing Out the Baby With the Bathwater?</p><p>46:00 – Supply Concentration: Bitcoin vs ETH & Hyperliquid Treasuries</p><p>48:54 – Volatility Harvesting & the Coiled Bitcoin Spring</p><p>54:21 – CLARITY at the One Yard Line: UTXO's Bearish Base Case</p><p>56:58 – Week Ahead: Jobs, ECI, Strategy Earnings & the CLARITY Act</p>
July 23, 2026
Cross-Asset Volatility at the Lows, the AI CapEx Reckoning & the Latest Text For CLARITY
Gabe Selby, CFA, interviews Craig Shapiro, Senior Macro Strategist, on how oil may trigger cross-asset volatility and the AI CapEx reckoning.
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- What is CFB Talks Digital Assets?
<p><strong>CFB Talks Digital Assets is the home of informed conversation about crypto from CF Benchmarks.</strong></p><p>We are the first and leading digital asset index provider, authorized and regulated by the UK FCA.</p><p>Respected and innovative financial institutions use our indices and reference rates to power regulated financial instruments, like listed derivatives, investment funds and structured products.</p><p>Join CF Benchmarks’ <strong>Head of Content, Ken Odeluga, Head of Research, Gabe Selby, CFA</strong> and <strong>Research Analyst, Mark Pilipczuk, </strong>as they talk with some of the most accomplished and influential figures in finance, about everything affecting digital assets — crypto protocols, markets, fund flows, on-chain metrics, macroeconomics and more.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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