- 81
- Episodes
- 16
- Transcribed
- 119
- Ratings
- Daily
- Cadence
- 2023
- First episode
- 23K
- YouTube views
About Chalk and Gavel
Welcome to Chalk and Gavel, exploring how the law shapes education, one case at a time. Join education professors Chris Thomas and Jamie Kudlats as they demystify the complex, ever-changing, and fascinating world of school law. Both former teachers, Chris, a former school attorney, and Jamie, a former principal, draw upon their experiences to explore the stories at the intersection of law and education. If you're an educator, policymaker, parent, student, or someone just curious about education, Chalk and Gavel is here to help you understand how the courtroom is connected to the classroom.
- Publisher
- Chalk and Gavel LLC
- Category
- education
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 16 Oct 2023
- Latest episode
- 6 Oct 2026
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6 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT
80 | Horses and Mules: Exploring How Kentucky Defines Common Public Schools

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79 | Religion and Discrimination: Previewing the St. Mary v. Roy SCOTUS Faith-Based Pre-School Case

8 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
78 | Lemons and Stones: The Ten Commandments are Back in Classrooms…Live from the McCarthy Institute
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80 | Horses and Mules: Exploring How Kentucky Defines Common Public Schools
Published 6 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] Yeah. You know, public school leaders. Yeah. Yeah. A charter school doesn't have the same thing. So, you know, if they get over enrolled, they can say no. And those kiddos go back to. The public school. Yeah. Or the traditional neighborhood public school, right? So then it sounds like based on that understanding of it, it's probably it would be hard to make the case that it is open and free to all school age children. Right. And that's what the court says. The court says, yeah, like they have enrollment caps. They're not required to educate everyone who applies. They're different than public schools in that regard. […]
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- 81 ratings
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