by Primary Venture Partners
Hosted by Jason Shuman of Primary Venture Partners, Change Order explores the turning points that define today’s leading operators and investors. Guests like Ryan Serhant, Codie Sanchez, Michael Rudin, and James O’Shaughnessy share the key inflections that shaped who they are — and how they think.
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June 5, 2026
<p>Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization. </p><p><br></p><p>They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.</p><p><br></p><p>Find more like this on Change Order.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization. </p><p><br></p><p>They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.</p><p><br></p><p>Find more like this on Change Order.</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with us here:</p><p>Dan Mishin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielmishin/</p><p>Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:30 From Crimea to Berlin: The Origin of a Business Idea</p><p>09:45 Building a Hostel Empire Across 13 Countries</p><p>21:30 Exiting a Business and the Decision to Start Over</p><p>29:00 Arriving in America: The First Call That Changed Everything</p><p>38:00 Why He Refused to Build Another Legal Software Company</p><p>47:30 Inside Manifest OS: Reimagining How Legal Work Gets Done</p><p>57:00 Global Expansion and the Future of Legal Services</p>
January 9, 2026
<p>AI is changing what it means to be good at your job.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, shares how he went from productivity writer to leading an AI-native company running six apps with a lean team, without being a full-time engineer.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode with Jason Shuman, Dan gets into:</p><p><br></p><p>- how shipping work now looks more like directing - systems than writing code</p><p>- why managing AI feels like running a company</p><p>- how compound systems prevent the same mistakes from happening again</p><p>- why allocation is becoming the most important skill heading into 2026</p><p><br></p><p>This episode offers a clear look at how founders and operators are adapting as AI reshapes how work gets done.</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with us here:</p><p><br></p><p>Dan Shipper: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danshipper/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/danshipper/</a></p><p>Jason Shuman: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/</a></p><p>Every Inc: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/everyinc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/everyinc/</a></p><p>Change Order: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/</a></p>
December 5, 2025
<p>When’s the last time you had a good customer experience?</p><p><br></p><p>Alex Levin, Co-founder and CEO of Regal AI, is building AI Phone Agents that handle millions of customer calls for a small fraction of the cost, and drive higher customer satisfaction. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode with Jason Shuman, Levin gets into:</p><p>• why companies moved away from phone calls despite customer demand.</p><p>• how legacy vendors decided voice wasn’t worth improving.</p><p>• why AI voice is now cheaper and more consistent than humans.</p><p>• what slows big companies from adopting voice AI.</p><p>• how AI handles the tier-1 work while humans focus on harder problems.</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with us here:</p><p>1. Alex Levin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlevin1</a></p><p>2. Jason Shuman: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/</a></p><p>3. Change Order: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-order/</a></p><p>4. Primary Venture Partners: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primary-venture-partners/</a></p>
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Hosted by Jason Shuman of Primary Venture Partners, Change Order explores the turning points that define today’s leading operators and investors.
Guests like Ryan Serhant, Codie Sanchez, Michael Rudin, and James O’Shaughnessy share the key inflections that shaped who they are — and how they think.
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