Chaos and Creativity

About Chaos and Creativity

Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists. Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra Covey, with music by Kieran Kerwin.

Publisher

Lou Lesko

Category

arts · arts · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

12 Nov 2024

Latest episode

8 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

39 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   8 Oct 2026

   Flea Bag and Other Originals in the Time of AI Slop

   It’s a classic Kimi and Lou episode of best laid plans. They start by talking about how professional creatives are now digital janitors to AI slop, then quickly get lost in the woods talking about Universal Basic Income, Phoebe Waller Bridge’s Flea Bag and myriad other topics loosely tied to the main topic. “Loosely” is doing a lot of work in that previous sentence. Mentioned in This Episode Flea Bag by Phoebe Waller BridgeNo Time to Die featuring Daniel CraigThe Guardian: Freelancers a...

2. 

   24 Sept 2026

   Dorothy Robbins: A State of Musical Being

   I’ll admit to having a ridiculously pedestrian perception of classical music artists. Pianists specifically. Call it lack of direct exposure, or maybe too much Bugs Bunny when I was a kid. Or maybe, maybe, maybe it’s the awe I feel when I watch a pianist play with a supernova-like intensity that I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced. Is this envy? Insecurity? Probably a blend. My next guest, classical pianist Dorothy Robbins, was kind enough to set me straight when she visited the Chaos & Cr...

3. 

   10 Sept 2026

   Mood Triggers

   We’ve all been there. Stuck in traffic, running late, woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Caught a mood from somebody else. Barista didn’t quite get your morning coffee right. And what started as a crap moment begins to seem like a crap day, a crap week, a crap life. You. Are. Spiraling. You know you might pull other people in with you. What happens next? In this minisode, Kimi and Lou share their secret inner sages’ insights into pulling out of emotional tailspins before minor mood changes...

Reach and audience

Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.

Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

16 ratings

Spotify

4.9 / 5

9 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 38 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

38

Social presence

94

YouTube

0

Engagement

51

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