Chaotic Entrepreneurs is the podcast for business owners in the messy middle of growth.
Hosted by Kimberly Wirfs, this show serves up real talk, relatable stories, and practical strategies to help you bring order to the chaos (without losing your mind.) Tune in for systems, sanity, and the occasional business pep talk you didn’t know you needed.
Working On Your Business (So You Can Actually Leave It) with Ral West
In this episode of The Chaotic Entrepreneur, Kimberly sits down with Ral West to unpack a wildly impressive entrepreneurial journey—from selling blackberries as a kid to building, systemizing, and selling a multi-million-dollar travel business.
Highlights include:
Ral’s first taste of entrepreneurship (spoiler: blackberries + ladders)
Building a tourism and travel business connecting Alaska and Hawaii
What it really means to work on your business instead of in it
Why systems, SOPs, and company culture matter more than hustle
Scaling a business, implementing early tech, and reducing staff while increasing revenue
Preparing a business for sale—and knowing when to exit
Life after selling: cruises, real estate, and teaching others how to build sustainable businesses
Ral shares timeless principles that still apply today—no matter how much technology has changed.
16 Dec 2025
Owning the Chaos: Oil Tankers, Malls, and Millions Lost with Kevin Hipes
In this episode, Kimberly sits down with Kevin Hipes, a serial entrepreneur with decades of stories, wins, losses, and wildly unforgettable experiences. From owning an oil tanker in the Caribbean (yes, really) to redeveloping struggling malls, Kevin shares what it truly means to embrace chaos—and why failure might be your greatest teacher.
Why Kevin considers chaos his best friend in business
The infamous oil tanker deal that made (and lost) millions
How keeping cash in reserve saved him during major financial downturns
Why he celebrates failures just as much as wins
The mindset shift that made him fearless: “If you’re humble, you can’t be humiliated”
Knowing when to let go of what’s no longer fun in business
Why entrepreneurship isn’t for everyone—but is everything for the right person
Kevin brings humor, honesty, and perspective that only comes from living a full, messy, bold entrepreneurial life.
Connect with Kevin:
Book: Book of Me: The Life and Times of Kevin Hipes, the New York Forrest Gump (available on Amazon)
YouTube: Planet Hipes
Stay bold. Stay chaotic. And maybe don’t buy an oil tanker without a backup plan.
Highlights:
15 Dec 2025
From Street Kid to Millions: Why Chaos Is the Real Cost of Entrepreneurship
In this episode of The Chaotic Entrepreneur Podcast, Kimberly sits down with Jerry Brazie, a serial entrepreneur with an extraordinary life story and decades of experience navigating real-world business chaos
What we cover:
Jerry’s journey from growing up in extreme poverty to building multi-million-dollar businesses
Why entrepreneurship is not for everyone—and why that’s okay
The uncomfortable truth: business is chaos all the time, not just in the beginning
How growing fast without understanding cash flow nearly destroyed a thriving company
Why selling isn’t enough—you have to sell profitably
The mindset shift that changed everything: “Shut up and listen”
How success can be just as dangerous as failure if you stop learning
The power of peer-to-peer groups and finding people who are smarter than you
Why entrepreneurs must be “the rock everyone crashes against”
Jerry’s mic-drop analogy: entrepreneurship is like a prize fight—everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
Jerry also shares:
Why online “overnight success” stories are mostly fiction
How chaos should be embraced, not avoided
The advice he wishes every entrepreneur heard earlier
What he’s building next with The KRONOS Group, a peer-to-peer community for business owners navigating growth and chaos
Connect with Jerry
Learn more about Jerry and the KRONOS Group at thekronosgroup.org
14 Dec 2025
Finding the Blessing in the Chaos with Dr. Chris Zaino
In this episode of The Chaotic Entrepreneur, we sit down with Dr. Chris Zaino for a raw, inspiring, and refreshingly honest conversation about chaos, resilience, and building success from life’s hardest moments.
Chris shares how a life-threatening health crisis completely rerouted his path — from professional athlete and celebrity trainer to chiropractor, wellness entrepreneur, and high-level business consultant. What started as physical chaos became the foundation for purpose-driven entrepreneurship and massive impact.
This episode is packed with real talk, mindset shifts, and practical tools for navigating the messy middle of business — without pretending chaos doesn’t exist.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
How a devastating health diagnosis became the catalyst for Chris’s entrepreneurial journey
Why chaos isn’t the enemy — and how to turn it into an advantage
The difference between chaos from struggle vs. chaos from abundance
Why “no one can call BS on your story” is a powerful business strategy
How losing his presentation forced Chris into authenticity — and changed everything
Simple daily routines that ground you when business feels overwhelming
Why physical movement is one of the fastest ways to reset your mindset
The importance of celebrating wins (before burnout reminds you the hard way)
How patience and timing can be just as powerful as action
A quick-fire metaphor that perfectly sums up entrepreneurship (hint: it involves racing)
Connect with Dr. Chris Zaino
https://www.instagram.com/drzaino
3 Nov 2025
Chaos Builds Character with Richard Blank
In this episode of The Chaotic Entrepreneur Podcast, Kimberly chats with Richard Blank, founder of Costa Rica’s Call Center. From Philly streets to tropical boardrooms, Richard shares how chaos shaped his success. They dive into bold risks, cultural curveballs, and the messy magic of running a business without losing your cool (or your humor).
Highlights:
From Philly to Costa Rica — how Richard built an international call center from scratch
Why chaos isn’t the enemy—it’s the ultimate teacher
Leadership through vulnerability, apologies, and staying human
Turning flops into fuel (like that time he ran out of gas with a client 😅)
“Pura vida” vs. hustle culture—and what it really means to slow down
His mantra: replace pressure with boldness and play the long game
Richard is the CEO of Costa Rica’s Call Center and a master at blending culture, communication, and chaos into lasting business success. You can find him at costaricascallcenter.com (https://costaricascallcenter.com/) — mention Kimberly for personal advice
3 Nov 2025
Turning Chaos into Cash Flow with Joe Abreu
In this episode of The Chaotic Entrepreneur Podcast, Kimberly sits down with seasoned entrepreneur Joe Abreu for a no-fluff conversation about embracing the chaos of business. From “happy accidents” that turned into wins to lessons learned the hard way, Joe dishes out real talk on resilience, growth, and staying grounded when business gets messy.
Highlights
Solo but not stranded: Joe likens entrepreneurship to being alone on an island—only the smart ones ask for help.
Chaos as a “fremeny”: Sometimes it fuels you, sometimes it fights you—but either way, it’s part of the game.
When deals go sideways: A real estate venture gone wrong ends up opening the door to brand-new opportunities.
Money-moment mindset: Joe prioritizes his tasks by when they’ll bring in cash—now, 30 days, or 60 days.
Lesson learned: Playing it too safe can stall growth; scaling strategically is key.
Pro tip: Write things down. Joe swears by handwritten lists for clarity, focus, and keeping overwhelm in check.
Perfect analogy: “Being an entrepreneur is like running a restaurant—you’re always cooking a dozen things at once.”
Check out Joe’s work at globalvisor.com (https://globalvisor.com/).
If this episode fired you up, hit subscribe, leave a quick review, and share it with another entrepreneur who’s in the thick of their own beautiful chaos.
3 Nov 2025
Unleashing Strength with Sheena Olson
Fitness and nutrition coach Sheena Olson (Strength Unleashed) joins Kimberly to talk about ditching “shrink yourself” culture and building real strength all in physical, mental, and emotional. From a zoning snafu that turned into a business win, to why exercise and five-minute meditations keep her steady, Sheena shares simple, sustainable ways entrepreneurs can handle chaos and stay confident.
Practical Tips for Listeners
Schedule movement like a meeting (walks count).
Try a 5-minute unguided meditation as a daily brain rinse.
Start a Win Folder: testimonials, texts, photos of milestones.
When stuck, buy speed—hire the expert instead of wrestling YouTube.
Resource Mentioned: The Desire Map by Danielle LaPorte
Connect with Sheena (https://www.instagram.com/strengthunleashedwithsheena/)
20 Oct 2025
Doing It Messy
In this episode, Kimberly sits down with Heather Nielsen who is a speaker, mentor, and business coach. They talk about the beauty of messy action, the power of mindset, and how tech systems can turn chaos into calm.
Heather shares her journey from real estate and network marketing to coaching and hosting transformational retreats. They dive into daily grounding habits, the power of tapping (EFT), and why celebrating small wins matters just as much as landing big ones.
You don’t have to have it all together to start — messy action beats no action.
Tech systems (like CRMs and automation) can free your mind and your calendar.
Consistency looks different every day — one verse or one hour both count.
Celebrate every win — your brain needs proof that progress is happening.
Divine Daughter Retreat — November 7, 2025, in Layton, Utah + Livestream
Keynote Speaker: Elizabeth Smart
Link for the Retreat: https://divinedaughter.org/2025-registration?am_id=kimberly1113
16 Sept 2025
Chaos as a Catalyst
In this episode of the Chaotic Entrepreneur Podcast, we sit down with Bobby James, a seasoned entrepreneur and owner of a thriving IT services company for over 18 years. Bobby shares his journey from growing up inspired by his father’s hustling, to navigating chaos, embracing ADHD, and turning setbacks into monumental wins.
Bobby opens up about a pivotal career moment which was a layoff that ultimately led to landing a major client and tripling his income. He explains how he reframes chaos as a friend, leverages meditation and hiking for mental clarity, and prioritizes hiring the right people to help his business grow.
Whether you’re a founder, business owner, or someone navigating professional ups and downs, Bobby’s story is a lesson in resilience, strategy, and embracing the messy middle of entrepreneurship.
Listen in to learn how chaos can actually work for you and how one pivot can transform everything.
30 May 2025
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