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ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is a podcast production of Reloveution, designed for leaders, managers, and changemakers who are looking for insight, tools, perspective, and real talk about topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. <br><br>Some "episodes" are long-form audio "workshops", some are honest conversations with like-hearted people I respect and admire (or maybe even disagree with), and some are short, casual hot take episodes on the leadership and workplace culture topics/challenges that come up again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work. You can expect stories, tools, venting, brutal honesty, lots of standing on soapboxes, and so much more. <br><br>Sample Episodes<br><br>- How to Support Your Team During a Looming Restructure<br>- What to Do When Your Boss Doesn't Care About Your Goals<br>- Burnout, Compassion Fatigue & Vicarious Trauma, OH MY<br>- Giving Effective Feedback<br>- Interrupting Real & Perceived Scarcity at Work<br>- Receiving Feedback Without Falling Apart<br>- Series - Let's Talk About Layoffs: The Good, the Bad & The Ugly<br><br><br>About the Show<br><br>GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). <br><br>Think of this as the real human alternative: honest chatter, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies for leaders who care.<br><br><br>Note for Listeners<br><br>I (Marissa) am trying to let go of all the tugs to make this perfectly (or at all) scripted, and want to use this as a space to riff and play. There is no editing; just me (and sometimes others) talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light or fire me up. This is an experiment that might shift over time.<br>

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Episode thumbnail for I Built My Own  Culture:  Natalia Sanyal on Belonging, Movement Building, and Humanity-First Marketing

August 5, 2026

I Built My Own Culture: Natalia Sanyal on Belonging, Movement Building, and Humanity-First Marketing

<p>Our Summer Guest Series continues with this rich, honest, and vulnerable conversation with Natalia Sanyal, a humanity-first marketer, brand messaging strategist, conversion copywriter, first-gen immigrant, 3rd-gen entrepreneur, and overall incredible human.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Today, we're exploring the thing most leaders and mission-driven founders dread: marketing themselves. But Natalia is not here to sell you another framework or growth hack. She's here to make the case that humanity-first marketing is not just more ethical, but more effective and supportive.</p><p><br></p><p>Natalia has spent more than a decade in marketing, working with brands like Apple, Lululemon, and Glennon Doyle, before leaving the agency world because she was tired of the manipulation. She went out on her own, built a personal brand on LinkedIn entirely through authentic content, and launched a program called Get Embodied that sold out every time she ran it. And then she didn't sell it again for three years, because her nervous system wasn't ready for how well it went. She's building it again now, which is its own kind of lesson.</p><p><br></p><p>We cover a lot of ground in this episode, including what movement messaging is and why the brands that use it outperform the ones that don't, the critical difference between a movement and a cult, why viral posts and massive followings don't automatically translate to income, what the nervous system has to do with pressing publish, and why selling (when it's done right) is actually a service, not a violation.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to hear:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>How Natalia went from selling hand-sewn tutus online to building a marketing practice for mission-driven founders</li><li>Why she left the agency world, and the manipulation tactics she refused to keep using</li><li>What movement messaging is, why it works, and what Apple, Nike, and Obama all have in common</li><li>The critical difference between a movement and a cult: agency at every stage</li><li>The truth about followers and income: why 100K followers is not a business or marketing plan</li><li>Why Natalia celebrated 100 Instagram followers</li><li>The Get Embodied story: a $100K launch, a freaked-out founder, and three years of not selling it again</li><li>Why "share your scars, not your wounds" is her content philosophy</li><li>The nervous system cost of visibility, including why pressing post is dysregulating, and what to do about it</li><li>The reframe that changed the conversation: selling is a service, and withholding your offer is a disservice</li><li>What it means to be a first-generation immigrant who found belonging in her business</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>About Natalia Sanyal:</strong></p><p>Natalia Sanyal is a humanity-first Marketer, brand messaging strategist, and conversion copywriter who helps mission-driven founders turn their personal brand into a business asset with strategy, self-expression, and nervous system regulation built in. She has more than a decade of marketing experience working with brands like Apple, Lululemon, and Glennon Doyle, and is the creator of Get Embodied, a multi-month cohort that helps founders clarify their message and build it into a movement. Born in Pakistan to a Pakistani father and Filipino mother and raised in Canada, Natalia is a first-generation immigrant and third-generation entrepreneur who found belonging by building her own culture through her business.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Natalia:</strong></p><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nataliasanyal" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@NataliaSanyal</a> — her most active platform and the best place to find out when Get Embodied launches</li><li>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliasanyal/</li></ul><p></p><p><strong>ChatGMB: Wisdom &amp; Insights for Modern Leaders</strong> is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, </strong><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/newsletter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter</strong></a><strong>!!</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) </strong><a href="https://forms.gle/Ped9H7ncvjnFh4DF8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>HERE</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.truereloveution.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice </span><strong style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">RepairWorks</strong><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.conflictrepairworks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.conflictrepairworks.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>About the Show</u></strong></p><p>GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Stop Fixing Everything: Lorena Martinez on Self-Awareness, Humility, and Learning to Trust Yourself

August 3, 2026

Stop Fixing Everything: Lorena Martinez on Self-Awareness, Humility, and Learning to Trust Yourself

<p>Our Summer Guest Series continues with a conversation that felt less like an interview and more like watching someone become themselves in real time. Lorena Martinez is a social worker, program manager, first-generation American, and daughter of Colombian immigrants who has spent her career working at the intersection of community service, social justice, international affairs, and human potential. </p><p><br></p><p>Lorena and I met through <a href="http://fivefrogsct.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Five Frogs Connecticut</a>'s <a href="https://fivefrogsct.org/opportunities/leadership-development-roundtable/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leadership Development Roundtable</a> program, where I served as her coach over eight months. She's since become a member of the Millennial Manager Collective, attended Reloveution retreats, and continued her growth in ways that are visible, concrete, and unbelievably moving to witness. In this conversation, we dig into what it means to lead with humility and values alignment in the social sector, the psychological weight of being a fixer (and what it costs when that's the only mode you know), the concrete tools Lorena still pulls out at team meetings years later, and what it's like to be a first-generation American navigating systems that were never designed with her in mind. </p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to hear:</p><ul><li>Lorena's origin story: Colombian roots, a grandmother who raised her on culture and language, and high school years spent advocating for day laborers and speaking in front of lawmakers</li><li>How she found her way from international affairs to social work</li><li>Why self-awareness is "the most important value factor, ever," and what it costs when leaders are blind to their own ego</li><li>How she came to coaching thinking she'd be told what she was doing wrong, and discovering reframing, possibilities, and values alignment instead</li><li>The concrete tools she still uses: communication styles, leadership types, difficult conversations, and the workbook that still lives in her binder</li><li>The "compassionate accountability" frame that changed how she thinks about work entirely</li><li>Code-switching, the psychological toll of not being able to show up fully, and what she wishes leaders would do differently</li><li>What it feels like to be a first-generation American in 2026 and the hypervigilance that comes with it</li><li>What she's working on becoming: someone who can let life unfold, trust that things will fall into place, and celebrate how far she's come instead of only seeing what's left to fix</li><li>Her closing wisdom: you don't have to do all the things from a place of scarcity. Do them because they bring you joy, because inherently, you are enough</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>About Lorena Martinez:</strong></p><p>Lorena Martinez is a social worker, program manager, and first-generation American born to Colombian parents and raised in New York and Connecticut. She holds a Master of Social Work and has spent her career working in mission-driven organizations at the intersection of community service, social justice, and human development. She is an alum of Five Frogs Connecticut's <a href="https://fivefrogsct.org/opportunities/leadership-development-roundtable/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leadership Development Roundtable</a> and a current member of Reloveution's <a href="https://www.millennialmanagercollective.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Millennial Manager Collective</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Coaching</strong></p><p>Lorena came into coaching expecting someone to tell her what she was doing wrong. What she found instead was a space to see her own situations from the outside, reframe, explore possibilities, and keep her humanity intact. She says the skills and tools she's worked through with me as her coach continue to pay back with exponential returns, and that when she faces a hard situation at work, her first thought is still: how would Marissa look at this? If you're a leader who could use someone like that in your corner, <a href="https://bit.ly/reloveutionconnectioncall" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">book a connection call</a> to see if coaching with Reloveution is the right fit for you.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Want More from Reloveution?</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.millennialmanagercollective.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join the Millennial Manager Collective</a> </li><li><a href="https://form.jotform.com/Reloveution/compassionate-accountability-cohort" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join our Compassionate Accountability Cohort</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p></p><p><strong>ChatGMB: Wisdom &amp; Insights for Modern Leaders</strong> is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, </strong><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/newsletter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter</strong></a><strong>!!</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) </strong><a href="https://forms.gle/Ped9H7ncvjnFh4DF8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>HERE</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.truereloveution.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice </span><strong style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">RepairWorks</strong><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.conflictrepairworks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.conflictrepairworks.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>About the Show</u></strong></p><p>GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Nobody Wakes Up and Says, "I Want to Be Homeless": Theresa Nicholson on Housing, Dignity, and Leadership

July 30, 2026

Nobody Wakes Up and Says, "I Want to Be Homeless": Theresa Nicholson on Housing, Dignity, and Leadership

<p>Our Summer Guest Series continues with Theresa Nicholson, Executive Director of <a href="https://www.southparkinn.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Park Inn</a> in Hartford, Connecticut. Theresa has spent more than 30 years advocating for and managing vital services for people experiencing homelessness and severe mental illness, working her way from case manager to vice president to executive director across some of the most complex social service organizations in Connecticut and Massachusetts. She came to South Park Inn in 2024 with a clear intention: to close out her career in a smaller organization where she could have a bigger, more direct impact on her community. </p><p><br></p><p>Theresa and I share stories about the people who have impacted us in our careers, dig into what's changed in homelessness services over 30 years, and explore what it means to lead a trauma-exposed team without burning everyone out. Tune in to also hear:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>What South Park Inn does and who/how it serves</li><li>The fastest-growing population experiencing homelessness right now — and why it surprised a synagogue full of people who thought they knew</li><li>What "brief" used to mean vs. what it means now, and what that says about the housing crisis</li><li>How Theresa thinks about team wellbeing in some of the most vicarious-trauma-heavy work there is</li><li>The "get to yes" framework, and a story about $20,000 in medical beds that almost got sent back</li><li>What Theresa wishes she'd known as a young leader</li><li>The skill vs. will framework for assessing staff</li><li>Why criminalizing homelessness is one of the most urgent and disheartening trends she's watching</li><li>The call to action: be an advocate, donate, volunteer, and remember that most of us are one paycheck away from a very different life</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>About Theresa Nicholson:</strong></p><p>Theresa Nicholson is a master's-level clinician and longtime advocate for people experiencing homelessness, mental illness, and addiction. She has served as Executive Director of South Park Inn since 2024, coming from the Center for Human Development in Western Massachusetts, where she was Director of Homeless Services for nearly six years. Previously, she was Chief Program Officer at Chrysalis Center in Hartford and spent 15 years at the Community Renewal Team as Vice President of Behavioral Health Services. She was a former chair of the Greater Hartford Coordinated Access Network. She is also a mother of six adopted children.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with and Support South Park Inn:</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://www.southparkinn.org" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Park Inn</a></li><li>Donate: <a href="https://www.southparkinn.org/donate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.southparkinn.org/donate</a></li><li>Get Involved: <a href="https://www.southparkinn.org/get-involved" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.southparkinn.org/get-involved</a></li><li><a href="https://www.southparkinn.org/danceparty2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Dance Party Fundraiser</strong></a><strong>:</strong> September 26, 2026 at Parkville Market, Hartford, CT</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://greaterhartfordgives.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Greater Hartford Gives</a> (formerly Hartford Foundation for Public Giving) [link]</li><li><a href="https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/dmhas/publications/can-brochures.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connecticut's Coordinated Access Network</a>s</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Want Support from Reloveution?</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://form.jotform.com/Reloveution/compassionate-accountability-cohort" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Join our Compassionate Accountability Cohort</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p></p><p><strong>ChatGMB: Wisdom &amp; Insights for Modern Leaders</strong> is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, </strong><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/newsletter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter</strong></a><strong>!!</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) </strong><a href="https://forms.gle/Ped9H7ncvjnFh4DF8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>HERE</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.truereloveution.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.truereloveution.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice </span><strong style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">RepairWorks</strong><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at </span><a href="https://www.conflictrepairworks.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(250, 251, 255);">www.conflictrepairworks.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>About the Show</u></strong></p><p>GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.</p>

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What is ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders?

ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is a podcast production of Reloveution, designed for leaders, managers, and changemakers who are looking for insight, tools, perspective, and real talk about topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. <br><br>Some "episodes" are long-form audio "workshops", some are honest conversations with like-hearted people I respect and admire (or maybe even disagree with), and some are short, casual hot take episodes on the leadership and workplace culture topics/challenges that come up again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work. You can expect stories, tools, venting, brutal honesty, lots of standing on soapboxes, and so much more. <br><br>Sample Episodes<br><br>- How to Support Your Team During a Looming Restructure<br>- What to Do When Your Boss Doesn't Care About Your Goals<br>- Burnout, Compassion Fatigue & Vicarious Trauma, OH MY<br>- Giving Effective Feedback<br>- Interrupting Real & Perceived Scarcity at Work<br>- Receiving Feedback Without Falling Apart<br>- Series - Let's Talk About Layoffs: The Good, the Bad & The Ugly<br><br><br>About the Show<br><br>GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). <br><br>Think of this as the real human alternative: honest chatter, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies for leaders who care.<br><br><br>Note for Listeners<br><br>I (Marissa) am trying to let go of all the tugs to make this perfectly (or at all) scripted, and want to use this as a space to riff and play. There is no editing; just me (and sometimes others) talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light or fire me up. This is an experiment that might shift over time.<br>

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