In our podcast, we dive deep into metrology, calibration, and proficiency testing bringing you real stories, expert insights, and candid conversations from our 85+ years of combined experience. This isn’t just another technical podcast; we’re here to challenge the status quo, discuss industry changes, and tackle big questions like whether calibration labs are failing to train the next generation or if automation has gone too far. Expect lively discussions, industry leaders as guests, and a little fun along the way. As Howard puts it, “Proficiency testing is checking that transition from theory to application. But what happens when techs are just pushing buttons?” And Chuck adds, “We’re not teaching technicians how to measure anymore—we’re teaching them how to press ‘go.’” Whether we’re reflecting on our journeys—like Howard’s path from Air Force electronics to writing calibration procedures for the NFL—or debating metrology’s future, we promise to keep it engaging, informative, and unfiltered.
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In our podcast, we dive deep into metrology, calibration, and proficiency testing bringing you real stories, expert insights, and candid conversations from our 85+ years of combined experience. This isn’t just another technical podcast; we’re here to challenge the status quo, discuss industry changes, and tackle big questions like whether calibration labs are failing to train the next generation or if automation has gone too far. Expect lively discussions, industry leaders as guests, and a little fun along the way. As Howard puts it, “Proficiency testing is checking that transition from theory to application. But what happens when techs are just pushing buttons?” And Chuck adds, “We’re not teaching technicians how to measure anymore—we’re teaching them how to press ‘go.’” Whether we’re reflecting on our journeys—like Howard’s path from Air Force electronics to writing calibration procedures for the NFL—or debating metrology’s future, we promise to keep it engaging, informative, and unfiltered.
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Recent Episodes
June 18, 2026
Season 2 Finale: Season Wrap-Up with Chuck and Howie
<p>Season 2 of ChatNAPT brought together some of the brightest minds in metrology, calibration, quality, and accreditation to share real-world lessons on leadership, workforce development, innovation, and technical excellence. From CEOs and laboratory owners to NASA experts and quality leaders, our guests discussed the challenges facing today's laboratories and the strategies helping organizations stay competitive, compliant, and future-ready. </p><p>The biggest takeaway? Success in metrology isn't just about measurements—it's about building strong teams, embracing new technology, developing talent, and creating systems that drive continuous improvement. Whether you're a laboratory manager, quality professional, technician, or business leader, Season 2 delivered practical insights you can apply to strengthen your operations, reduce risk, improve performance, and prepare for what's next in the industry. </p><p>And stay tuned, ChatNAPT Season 3 is coming this fall, with new guests, fresh perspectives, and actionable insights to help you get even more from your proficiency testing program.</p><p><br>----</p><p>NAPT will be in Kansas City, MO, July 27–29 for the NCSL International Workshop & Symposium 2026, and we're looking forward to connecting with the metrology community once again.</p><p>If you're planning to attend, stop by and say hello. Whether you've worked with NAPT for years or are just getting to know us, we'd love the opportunity to meet, catch up, and talk about what's happening in your lab.</p><p>The day before the symposium begins, we'll be celebrating NAPT's 30th Anniversary—and you're invited.</p><p>📅 July 26, 2026<br>🕒 3:00 PM – 7:00 PM<br>📍 John's Big Deck | Kansas City, MO</p><p>Join us for an afternoon of great conversations, networking, food, drinks, and a chance to celebrate 30 years of supporting laboratories through proficiency testing.</p><p>If you're attending NCSLI, we'd love to see you there. </p><p>RSVP and get all the details here: https://www.proficiency.org/30th-anniversary-party/</p>
May 21, 2026
Season 2 | Episode 15 with Bobby Feigler from Michelli Weighing & Measurement
<p>What does it take to grow a family business into one of the most recognized names in weighing and measurement?</p><p><br>In this episode of ChatNAPT, Chuck and Howie sit down with, Bobby Feigler President and CEO of Michelli Weighing & Measurement. Bobby shares the story behind Michelli’s growth from a small New Orleans business founded in 1947 to a company serving customers across the country.</p><p>The conversation covers industrial scales, calibration labs, and why accurate measurement matters more than most people realize. Bobby explains how measurements impact everything from manufacturing and transportation to food production and safety-critical industries.</p><p><br>They also discuss leadership, company culture, and the challenge of developing skilled technicians in today’s workforce. Drawing from his Army background and years of business experience, Bobby shares his approach to building strong teams and creating a company where people can grow.</p><p><br>Along the way, the episode also touches on family, travel, military service, and the lessons learned from decades in business.</p><p>If you work in metrology, calibration, or laboratory operations, this episode offers an honest look at leadership, growth, and the people behind the measurements that keep industries running.</p><p><br></p>
April 30, 2026
Season 2 | Episode 14 with Heath M Moore from Tennessee Valley Authority
<p>What can you learn from managing metrology in a nuclear environment and how can it make your lab run better?</p><p>In this episode of ChatNAPT, Chuck and Howie sit down with Heath Moore, Senior Manager of Calibration Services at the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA). With nearly three decades of experience, Heath shares what it takes to lead calibration operations where downtime is not an option and every decision carries weight.</p><p><br>They talk about the realities labs face every day, from hitting turnaround times and handling technician shortages to working with legacy equipment that still has to perform. Heath also breaks down why communication is often the biggest hidden issue in lab performance and what leaders can do to fix it.</p><p>The conversation also gets into one of the biggest challenges right now, building and keeping a strong technical team. From developing new technicians to creating a culture where people step up and support each other, there are clear takeaways you can apply immediately in your own lab.</p>
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