Hosted by Heidi - coach, expert in giftedness, and mindfulness teacher - this podcast delivers practical career tips, inspiring stories, and expert insights — empowering you to make thoughtful choices about your career and workplace. In each episode, I explore a work-related topic together with a leading expert, or someone with firsthand experience.
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Hosted by Heidi - coach, expert in giftedness, and mindfulness teacher - this podcast delivers practical career tips, inspiring stories, and expert insights — empowering you to make thoughtful choices about your career and workplace. In each episode, I explore a work-related topic together with a leading expert, or someone with firsthand experience.
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August 18, 2026
#13: Sometimes the Shortest Way Is a Detour — Giftedness, Coming Out, Career Choices & Finding Your Own Way with Frans Corten
<p><strong>Frans Corten </strong>(63) is a career coach who has worked with gifted adults for more than 25 years. He is also the author of Exceptional Talent: A Guide for the Gifted, the Inventors andOther Birds of a Rare Feather, and has co-authored several articles on giftedness in the workplace.</p><p>In this episode, Frans shares his personal story as a highly gifted person, including his experience of discovering that he is gayat 18. He reflects on (high) giftedness, the emancipation of gifted people and LGBTQIA+ parallels, identity, authenticity,career detours, autonomy, and finding<strong> </strong>— and creating — your own path.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>TIMESTAMPS</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction </p><p>01:40 Meet Frans Corten: career coach for (highly) giftedadults and author</p><p>03:44 Growing up highly gifted: “For me, it's not interesting at all. It’s Just How I Am.”</p><p>11:35 Discovering he is gay at 18: "My life started after that moment."</p><p>14:50 The emancipation of gifted people & parallels with the LGBTQIA+ community</p><p>23:20 Profiling yourself and tuning in to others</p><p>26:30 How gifted people can blossom: Focus on what you like to do.</p><p>29:20 “Sometimes the Shortest Way Is a Detour” — Rethinking Career Choices</p><p>32:00 Autonomy, self-employment & giftedness in the workplace</p><p>36:40 The story behind his book Exceptional Talent</p><p>40:30 High Giftedness: indicators, complicated childhoods & making meaning of your past</p><p>46:30 “Don’t adapt, tune in” — Authenticity, finding your peers & letting yourself shine</p><p>54:40 Who is Exceptional Talent for? Helping gifted people build better careers</p><p>55:50 “Dare” — Creating your own path & following your heart</p><p>57:10 Where to Learn More About Frans Corten and his book</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p>- Nauta, N., & Corten, F. (2002). Gifted Adults in Work. Link: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319068968_Gifted_adults_in_work</p><p>- Transformation Game: https://innerlinks.com/</p><p>- Choose Work episodes #2 and #12 with Dr Noks Nauta </p><p>- Mensa: www.mensa.org</p><p>- Triple Nine Society (TNS): www.triplenine.org</p><p>- Rianne van de Ven</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>Support the podcast</strong><br />- If you enjoy Choose Work, you can support it with a small voluntary contribution (even the price of a coffee) via Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/choosework</p><p>*</p><p><strong>Frans Corten and his book:</strong></p><p>- Website: https://uitzonderlijktalent.nl/ (Dutch) + http://exceptionaltalent.eu/ (English)</p><p>- Book: Exceptional Talent: A guide for the gifted, the inventorsand other birds of a rare feather</p><p>*</p><p>For show notes, please visit <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/podcast" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heididelanghe.com/podcast</a></p><p>For feedback or suggestions for topics or guests, email me at contact@heididelanghe.com </p><p><strong>Contact Heidi - Coach • Expert in Giftedness • Mindfulness Teacher:</strong></p><p>- Book a free discovery call at <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/contact" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">heididelanghe.com/contact</a><strong></strong></p><p>- Linkedin: <a href="www.linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe</a></p><p>- Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/</a></p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p>Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host. The conversations are intended for informational purposes and do not constitute professional, psychological, or career advice.</p>
June 18, 2026
#12: "It's Still a Taboo" — 10 Things to Know About High Giftedness (IQ 145+), and The Highly Gifted Person's Driver's License with Dr. Noks Nauta, Pioneer of Adult Giftedness Research
<p>As part of the English-language series on giftedness in the workplace, I’m joined by Dr. Noks Nauta (78) — non-practisingmedical doctor, psychologist, author, and pioneer of adult giftedness research.</p><p>Noks only discovered she is highly gifted (IQ 145+) at the age of 52 through a conflict in the workplace. What began as a personal discovery evolved into a lifelong mission: making the world a better place for gifted adults and seniors. She is also a co-founder of the Gifted Adults Foundation (IHBV) in the Netherlands — the world’s only foundation dedicated exclusively to gifted adults.</p><p>This episode explores 10 key things to know about high giftedness, and practical tips to obtain your highly gifted person’s driver's license.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>TIMESTAMPS</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction </p><p>01:25 Meet Dr. Noks Nauta </p><p>03:40 What does highly gifted (IQ 145+) actually mean? </p><p>11:00 Finding your tribe: Mensa, Triple Nine Society, International Society for Philosophical Enquiry & (highly) gifted cafés </p><p>26:35 High giftedness: characteristics, the Delphi Model ofGiftedness & performance</p><p>30:18 Parenting highly gifted children </p><p>41:45 Why giftedness is still a taboo </p><p>43:35 Mental health, caregivers, and self-compassion </p><p>50:30 The Highly Gifted Person's Driver's License </p><p>55:20 “Don’t say the G-word.” Talk about your characteristics and needs.</p><p>01:06:00 "It's not a sexy topic." Adult giftedness research & the future of the field</p><p>01:11:48 Giftedness and neurodiversity </p><p>01:15:55 Books, resources & where to learn more</p><p>01:20:00 Where to learn more about Dr. Noks Nauta and herwork</p><p>*</p><p><strong>References:</strong></p><p>- Mensa: www.mensa.org</p><p>- Triple Nine Society (TNS): www.triplenine.org</p><p>- International Society for Philosophical Enquiry (ISPE): www.thethousand.com</p><p>- High Giftedness Expertise Group (HGEG): https://highgiftedness.org</p><p>- Wiki about high giftedness: https://highgiftedness.org/wiki/index.php/Hoofdpagina</p><p>- Gifted Adults Foundation (Dutch: Instituut Hoogbegaafdheid Volwassenen (IHBV)) website: https://ihbv.nl/</p><p>- Gifted Adults Foundation leaflets: https://ihbv.nl/leaflets-english/ (English) + https://ihbv.nl/leaflets/ (Dutch) + https://ihbv.nl/leaflets-deutsch/ (German)</p><p>- (Highly) gifted cafes (Dutch: (zeer) HB-café) of the Gifted Adults Foundation: https://hb-cafe.ihbv.nl/- Delphi Model of Giftedness: https://www.oya.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/190702-article-Delphi-Model-of-Giftedness-ADJ-reprint.pdf (English) + https://www.oya.nl/producten/delphikaart/ (Dutch) </p><p>- Choose Work episode 11 about the Delphi Model ofGiftedness explained</p><p>- Blog. The Other Side of the Concept of Neurodiversity/Neurodivergence. Dr. Noks Nauta: https://noksnauta.wordpress.com/2025/01/05/de-andere-kant-van-het-begrip-neurodiversiteit-neurodivergentie/ (Dutch) + www.mensafoundation.org/the-other-side-of-the-concept-of-neurodiversity-neurodivergence/ (English)</p><p>- Documentary. Rise: The Extraordinary Journey ofthe Exceptionally and Profoundly Gifted. Susan Jackson.</p><p>- DSM: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Illnesses</p><p>- Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS)</p><p>- SCALIQ: https://scaliq.com/en/scaliq-bovengemiddelde-iq-testen-english/</p><p>- Rianne van de Ven</p><p>- Dr. Allen Frances</p><p>- Amy Beach</p><p>- Anna Maria van Schurman</p><p>- Hildegard von Bingen</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>Support the podcast:</strong><br>- If you enjoy Choose Work, you can support it with a small voluntary contribution (even the price of a coffee) via Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/choosework</p><p>*</p><p><strong>Contact Dr. Noks Nauta & learn more about her work:</strong></p><p>- Website: <a href="http://www.noksnauta.nl/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">www.noksnauta.nl</a></p><p>- Blog: <a href="http://noksnauta.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">noksnauta.wordpress.com</a></p><p>- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/noksnauta </p><p>*</p><p>For show notes, please visit <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">heididelanghe.com/podcast</a></p><p>For feedback or suggestions for topics or guests, email me at contact@heididelanghe.com </p><p><strong>Contact Heidi - Leadership Coach • Expert in Giftedness • Mindfulness Teacher:</strong></p><p>- Book a free discovery call at <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/contact" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">heididelanghe.com/contact</a><strong></strong></p><p>- Linkedin: <a href="www.linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe</a></p><p>- Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/</a></p>
June 9, 2026
#11: From "I Thought I Was Stupid" to IQ 142 — Burnout, What It Means to Be a Gifted Adult, and The Delphi Model Explained with Pauline Coret, Director of the World's Only Gifted Adults Foundation
<p><strong>What happens when you spend decades feeling like the odd one out — too intense, too much — only to discover through your child that you are gifted?</strong></p><p>In this English-language episode, I’m joined by Pauline Coret, Director of the Gifted Adults Foundation (IHBV) — the world’s only foundation dedicated exclusively to gifted adults. Alongside her work with the foundation, Pauline is a certified Career Professional and Core Talents Analyst.</p><p>Together, we explore Pauline’s personal journey as a gifted adult, the mission and impact of the Gifted Adults Foundation, and the Delphi Model of Giftedness. Pauline also shares how she recognises the model’s characteristics in her own life and work.</p><p>*</p><p> TIMESTAMPS:</p><p><strong>00:00</strong> Introduction to Choose Work</p><p><strong>01:28</strong> Meet Pauline Coret: certified career professional and director of the Gifted Adults Foundation<br><strong>03:10 </strong>Growing up gifted without knowing it<br><strong>05:40 </strong>School, underperforming on purpose, and learning to fit in<br><strong>08:40</strong> University, failure, and finding work<br><strong>09:10</strong> Fifteen years in insurance: boredom and job-hopping<br><strong>11:20</strong> Feeling like the odd one out at work<br><strong>15:20</strong> Why every job became boring <br><strong>17:20</strong> Workplace conflict and burnout<br><strong>18:02 </strong>Discoverying her son's giftedness and the book that dropped like a bomb<br><strong>19:40</strong> Pauline's IQ score of 142 and a complete shift in self-understanding<br><strong>23:40</strong> Finding peers through the Gifted Adults Foundation and Gifted Cafes<br><strong>25:20</strong> Leaving insurance and starting her own business<br><strong>27:10</strong> Entrepreneurship, autonomy, and finding work that finally fits<br><strong>30:24</strong> The Gifted Adults Foundation: mission, research, community, international ambitions</p><p><strong>34:30</strong> How to start a Gifted Cafe in your own country</p><p><strong>35:55</strong> The Delphi Model of Giftedness explained<br><strong>40:09</strong> Why most giftedness models don't work well for adults<br><strong>41:34</strong> Applying the Delphi Model to Pauline's own life</p><p><strong>53:30</strong> What Pauline still wants to achieve — and her dream for the Foundation </p><p><strong>54:39</strong> Where to find Pauline and the Gifted Adults Foundation</p><p>*</p><p><strong>References:</strong></p><p>- Book: Hoogbegaafd: als je kind (g)een Einstein is. Tessa Kieboom.</p><p>- Gifted Adults Foundation (Dutch: Instituut Hoogbegaafdheid Volwassenen (IHBV)) website: https://ihbv.nl/</p><p>- Gifted Adults Foundation leaflets: https://ihbv.nl/leaflets-english/ (English) + https://ihbv.nl/leaflets/ (Dutch) + https://ihbv.nl/leaflets-deutsch/ (German)</p><p>- IHBV Facebook: www.facebook.com/InstituutHBVolwassenen/</p><p>- IHBV Instagram: www.instagram.com/stichtingihbv/</p><p>- IHBV LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/ihbv-instituut-hoogbegaafdheid-volwassenen</p><p>- Delphi Model of Giftedness: www.oya.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/190702-article-Delphi-Model-of-Giftedness-ADJ-reprint.pdf (English) + https://www.oya.nl/producten/delphikaart/ (Dutch) </p><p>- Dr. Matt Zakreski</p><p>*</p><p><strong>Support the podcast:</strong></p><p>- If you enjoy Choose Work, you can support it with a small voluntary contribution (even the price of a coffee) via Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/choosework</p><p>*</p><p><strong>Contact Pauline Coret:</strong></p><p>- Website: www.watzijnmijnkerntalenten.nl/ </p><p>- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/pauline-coret-08002810/ </p><p>- Instagram: www.instagram.com/pauline.coretbokenkamp/</p><p>*</p><p>For show notes, please visit <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">heididelanghe.com/podcast</a></p><p>For feedback or suggestions for topics or guests, email me at contact@heididelanghe.com </p><p><strong>Contact Heidi - Leadership Coach • Expert in Giftedness • Mindfulness Teacher:</strong></p><p>- Book a free discovery call at <a href="https://www.heididelanghe.com/contact" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">heididelanghe.com/contact</a></p><p>- Linkedin: <a href="www.linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">linkedin.com/in/heididelanghe</a></p><p>- Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">instagram.com/heididelanghe.coaching/</a></p>
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