ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

About ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.

Publisher

vasder

Category

business · business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

17 Dec 2016

Latest episode

12 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

698 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   12 Oct 2026

   621 | The Math Says You're Fine. Why Don't You Feel Fine? | Cody Garrett

   You've reached financial independence. The spreadsheet says you're ready. But you still can't pull the trigger on retirement—or spending. A couple with $10 million sits paralyzed, unable to retire despite every calculator saying they're fine. What's happening isn't a math problem. It's a psychology problem. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 Introduction and Guest Background Cody Garrett shares his journey from musician to CFP® and his deep dive into financial psychology, including CBT, ACT, motivational interviewing, and financial therapy—exploring why people who've reached FI still can't enjoy it. 00:08:30 The Paradoxical Pattern: Objective Reality vs. Subjective Identity Case study of a couple with $10 million who feel paralyzed about retiring. Your financial reality can change much faster than your identity, and more information often makes the problem worse rather than better. 00:15:00 Five Sources of Information-Seeking Behavior Why FI-minded people default to seeking better analysis, conservative assumptions, hiring authorities, optimization, and indefinite research when stuck—and when learning becomes postponement rather than progress. 00:24:00 What Creates Ambivalence: Seven Push-Pull Factors Permission, control, identity, responsibility (the invisible balance sheet), protection, values and time (the values vacuum), and flexibility—how these factors create decision paralysis even when the numbers work. 00:35:00 The Invisible Balance Sheet and Open-Ended Obligations Most people carry invisible obligations to family members that create endless anxiety. Cody asks: would the people you feel responsible for actually agree with your obligations? Brad reflects on responsibilities to his kids and parents. 00:45:00 Six Therapeutic Approaches That Actually Help Values clarification, decisional balance, acceptance and willingness, behavioral experiments (exposure therapy), mechanical devices (systems and structures), and hiring support without outsourcing agency. 00:55:00 Live Decisional Balance Exercise: Buying vs. Renting Brad and Cody work through a real decisional balance exercise exploring Brad's decision to rent versus buy after his divorce. Brad discovers how location and proximity to his daughters fits both options, challenging his initial mental model. 01:15:00 Behavioral Experiments and Progressive Exposure How to design small experiments to build confidence through action rather than waiting for certainty. Examples include selling investments, withdrawing cash, and spending it to complete the psychological loop. 01:22:00 Mechanical Devices: The Retirement Paycheck Creating a retirement paycheck system that mimics working paychecks makes spending easier and less dependent on willpower. Discussion of dedicated accounts and mental accounting made real. 01:28:00 Closing Thoughts and Resources Resources available at measuretwicemoney.com/choosefi including values clarification and decisional balance worksheets. Notable Quotes "The behaviors that helped you become financially independent can eventually become the behaviors that prevent you from enjoying financial independence." — Cody Garrett "How much money does your identity think you have?" — Cody Garrett "Someone will spend your money. It's you, family and friends, charitable organizations, or the government." — Cody Garrett "More information doesn't resolve those emotional goals of wanting to feel confident and secure and free moving into retirement." — Cody Garrett "Confidence often comes after action rather than before it." — Brad Barrett Key Takeaways Download the values clarification exercise at measuretwicemoney.com/choosefi and complete it individually, then with your partner if applicable Identify one open-ended obligation on your invisible balance sheet and define it in specific dollar terms or timeline Design one small behavioral experiment to test a spending decision you've been avoiding, documenting your predictions beforehand Set up a retirement paycheck...

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   5 Oct 2026

   620 | Book Club: Happy Money — When Is Enough, Enough? | Jillian Johnsrud & Ginger

   Your FI number is a calculation. "Enough" is a feeling. They're not the same thing—and confusing them keeps people working years past their actual financial independence. Ginger and Jillian Johnsrud unpack this crucial distinction while discussing Ken Honda's Happy Money, a book that frustrated both of them yet yielded surprising insights. Key Topics Discussed Introduction and Book Overview (00:00:00) Mixed reactions to Happy Money's structure and how to extract value from challenging reads. Separating Money and Emotions (00:08:00) Why spreadsheet numbers and emotional security don't move in tandem, illustrated through examples of wealthy clients paralyzed by spending anxiety. The Concept of Enough (00:15:00) How "enough" operates as an emotional state rather than a mathematical calculation, and why paying off debt creates profound shifts that incremental net worth increases don't. Challenging Passages and Mindset (00:22:00) Critical examination of the book's claims about energy and money manifestation, separating mindset work from wealth building. Practical Applications and Mini Steps (00:30:00) Testing freedom assumptions through mini retirements, flexible work arrangements, and small experiments before major life transitions. Generosity, Morrow, and Creating Your Environment (00:42:00) Positive takeaways including the concept of morrow (selflessness), generosity practices, and the "yellow smoke bomb" metaphor for shaping your desired environment. Notable Quotes "Freedom can't be bought with money. Even if you have all the money in the world, if your mind is not free you lose the real advantages of that wealth." — Ken Honda "The numbers on the spreadsheet and how you feel about the numbers on the spreadsheet are two separate works." — Ginger "If you were scared at eight hundred thousand, you're probably going to be pretty scared at nine hundred thousand." — Jillian Johnsrud "Confidence and clarity come in doing, doing the thing." — Ginger "You don't receive what you deserve. You receive what you accept." — Jillian Johnsrud Key Takeaways Identify one small experiment representing 10% of your retirement vision—flexible Fridays, breakfast out on Wednesdays, monthly long weekends—and try it now Examine a money belief driving your current behavior: Where did it come from? How did it serve you? Does it still serve your next chapter? Practice a small act of generosity or spending that feels slightly uncomfortable but is well within your means, building evidence that you'll be okay Write down what "freedom" or "enough" actually means to you in concrete terms, beyond just a number If nearing FI, stop adding to the spreadsheet for 3-6 months and focus exclusively on emotional and confidence work Resources and Links Retire Often by Jillian Johnsrud Retire Often website ChooseFI forums Happy Money by Ken Honda ChooseFI local groups ChooseFI newsletter

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   28 Sept 2026

   619 | The Student Loan Rulebook Was Rewritten | Travis Hornsby

   The federal government just split student loan borrowers into two groups: those who borrowed before July 2026 keep access to income-driven repayment and forgiveness strategies, while everyone after gets strict caps, fewer options, and tax bills on forgiven debt. If you're on the wrong side of that line—or helping someone navigate it—the math on graduate school, Parent PLUS loans, and even retirement contributions just changed. The July 2026 Dividing Line – 00:05:30 The One Big Beautiful Bill Act created two distinct classes of borrowers. Pre-July 2026 borrowers retain access to Income-Based Repayment (IBR) with payments at 10-15% of discretionary income and forgiveness after 20-25 years. Post-July 2026 borrowers get the new Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP) with 1-10% payments based on income but forgiveness only after 30 years. Anyone who takes out even one loan after the cutoff loses access to the old system entirely. New Borrowing Limits – 00:12:00 Federal loans are now capped at approximately $65,000 total for undergraduates (via Parent PLUS), $20,500 per year for graduate students, and $50,000 per year for professional programs like medical, dental, and law school—with a $200,000 lifetime cap for professional degrees. These limits fundamentally change which graduate programs remain financially viable without substantial family wealth or private loans. The Death of Parent PLUS Loans – 00:35:00 Parent PLUS loans have become a loan of last resort. They now carry roughly 9% interest rates, offer zero income-driven repayment options, and place all legal responsibility on parents alone. Students are morally but not legally obligated. For parents with good credit, private loans offer better rates and the option to cosign, putting responsibility on both parties. Private Loans About to Surge – 01:10:00 With federal borrowing caps forcing graduate students to seek alternative funding, the private loan market is poised for massive growth. Rate spreads can reach 7 percentage points between best and worst offers. Students should establish credit history at least three years before grad school by opening a credit card early and rate shop aggressively across multiple lenders. IBR vs RAP: Know Your Repayment Plan – 00:18:00 Pre-July 2026 borrowers can access IBR with payments capped at 10% or 15% of discretionary income and forgiveness after 20 years for undergrad debt or 25 years for graduate debt. Post-July 2026 borrowers get RAP, which starts at 1% of income for those earning under $15,000 and scales up to 10% for higher earners, with forgiveness only after 30 years. The difference in both payment structure and timeline is substantial. The Tax Bomb Returns – 00:28:00 Forgiveness through income-driven repayment in the private sector is once again taxable as income starting in 2026, after being tax-free from 2021-2025 under the American Rescue Plan. Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) remains tax-free. For someone who has $100,000 forgiven while earning $75,000, they could face a tax bill on $175,000 of income in the year of forgiveness. PSLF and Current Litigation – 00:52:00 PSLF remains the strongest forgiveness option for qualifying public service and nonprofit employees, requiring 120 qualifying payments while working full-time. The PSLF Buyback program allows workers to purchase credit for months spent in forbearance or deferment. Current litigation primarily affects niche groups rather than broad populations, though ongoing challenges to Department of Education rules create uncertainty. AGI Manipulation as Tax Strategy – 01:02:00 Since income-driven repayment calculates payments based on Adjusted Gross Income, maximizing pre-tax 401(k) contributions, HSA contributions, and other above-the-line deductions directly reduces required loan payments. For borrowers paying 24% federal tax + 5% state tax + 10% to student loans, that's a 39% effective marginal rate—making traditional pre-tax contributions far more valuable than Roth...

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