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Clock Out & Connect is the podcast that goes where most healthcare shows won't. Marc and Shantall work in anesthesia, one of the most high-stakes, misunderstood corners of medicine, and every episode they clock out, sit down, and get into it. Work culture, burnout, the money nobody talks about, what really happens behind the OR doors, and the life you're trying to build around all of it.
Honest conversations. Real experiences. No sugarcoating. If you're thinking it, we're talking about it.
Publisher
Marc Smith, CRNA & Shantall Cummins, CRNA
Category
health & fitness · health & fitness · health & fitness
Season 1 Finale: Our AANA Boston Debrief on CRNA Culture
Send us Fan Mail Marc and Shantall close out Season 1 live from the FinCon podcast booth in Palm Springs, weeks after AANA's Annual Congress in Boston, where 4,500 CRNAs and SRNAs filled one building. It'sthe first time they've recorded in the same room since the show started. They get into the real shift away from "nurses eat their young" and toward community over competition, and what they'd tell an SRNA whose confidence takes a hit because everyone else seems to have gotten a memo they mis...
8 Sept 2026
High Earner, Not Rich Yet | Episode 11
Send us Fan Mail "Tuition is 250, 300, 350, almost 400,000 dollars" at the pricier programs, our guest says, and that's before three years of no income on top of it. Add the two together and you can graduate CRNA school half a million dollars behind before your first paycheck clears. He built an entire platform, The Finance Focused CRNA (@the_finance_focused_crna on Instagram), around exactly that gap, and he does it under a pen name he explains himself on mic, a nod to Mark Twain: Henry stan...
25 Aug 2026
The Gaslighting of Birth: What Really Happens in the Delivery Room (Part 2, The Room) | Episode 10
Send us Fan Mail It's just anxiety. That is the sentence women kept hearing back, the ones on the Retrievals podcast whose spinal or epidural was not working during a C-section, told the problem was in their head. That is medical gaslighting in childbirth, and once you hear it named, you start hearing it everywhere women describe how their births actually went. Part 1 laid out the data. Part 2 is the room itself. Dr. Neda Hashemi, MD, FACOG and Dr. Chloe Trowbridge, DNP, CNM walk us through w...
11 Aug 2026
The Gaslighting of Birth: Why Women Stop Trusting the System (Part 1, The Data) | Episode 09
Send us Fan Mail A Black woman in this country is more than three times more likely to die having a baby than a white woman, and the United States is the most dangerous wealthy country to have one in. So we opened with the question we actually wanted answered. When a woman walks into a hospital already not trusting the system, is she wrong? Dr. Neda Hashemi, an OB/GYN in practice for more than two decades, and Chloe Trowbridge, the nurse-midwife who helped deliver Marc's first baby, both said...
28 Jul 2026
Functional Chaos: How Two Demanding Careers Make a CRNA Marriage Work | Episode 08
Send us Fan Mail Two CRNA couples, both spouses on mic for the first time, comparing what school and money actually did to their marriages. That's this one. Everybody warned us the same way, "CRNA school's gonna be hard, the divorce rate is through the roof." So Marc and Shantall brought Becky and Adam on to say the quiet part out loud, and answer the question a lot of you are asking: how do you make a CRNA marriage work? We get into the real stuff. The month you're praying your card doesn't ...
14 Jul 2026
Teen Mom to CRNA: The Part of Anesthesia School Nobody Warns You About | ft. Chris O'Connor, CRNA | Ep. 7
Send us Fan Mail Everybody loves the after photo. CRNA, six figures, living happily ever after. Almost nobody talks about what it actually took to get there. Chris O'Connor was a teen mom who had her son in high school, then a single mom of two who put herself through CRNA school on maxed-out loans, food stamps, and daycare assistance. She technically seeded out. Her GPA slipped below the line, the school missed it, financial aid caught it, and she spent a whole semester one test away from be...
30 Jun 2026
The Money Myth: How a Nurse Paid Off Nearly $1M in Debt | ft. Naseema McElroy, RN, FNP
Send us Fan Mail Most of us were taught to keep our heads down and never talk about money. Naseema McElroy, RN, FNP did the opposite, and it changed her whole life. She was a labor and delivery nurse earning well over six figures and still sitting on close to a million dollars of debt. Then she got loud about it, paid it off in under three years, and built Financially Intentional so other nurses could do the same. In this one, Naseema says the quiet part out loud: the people who make you feel...
16 Jun 2026
Occupational Hazards: A CRNA on Burnout, Faith, and Heavy Lifting (ft. Bilal Mohammad)
Send us Fan Mail We called this one Occupational Hazards, but we're not talking about needle sticks. We're talking about what the job quietly costs a CRNA. What it feels like in your body to walk out of a case that went south, then do a stat C-section ten minutes later because the day doesn't stop for you to fall apart. Bilal Mohammad is a Miami CRNA you probably know as That CRNA Who Lifts, and he came on to talk about all of it. How he protects his faith at work and why he's never had to ch...
2 Jun 2026
Selfish ft. Dr. Dani Williams, DNP, CRNA - Episode 04
Is taking care of yourself actually selfish? Or is that just what healthcare trained you to believe? Dr. Dani Williams is a CRNA and IFBB Fit Model Pro — and she trained for her Pro card while she was in anesthesia school. Not after. During. In this episode, Shantall and Marc sit down with Dani to talk about what it actually costs to put yourself first when your entire career is built around putting everyone else first. Guilt, burnout, body image, boundaries, the pressure to always be availa...
19 May 2026
They Stayed - Episode 03
Everyone talks about what it costs you to chase CRNA school.Nobody talks about what it costs them. The spouses who held down households alone. The parents who stopped calling because they didn’t want to add to the weight. The friends who slowly disappeared. The marriages that survived — but barely. In Episode 3, Marc and Shantall get honest about the people who didn’t sign up for anesthesia school but lived every second of it anyway. Marc opens up about what it was like being newly married ...
5 May 2026
What Saying Yes Actually Cost - Episode 02
What does saying yes to CRNA school actually cost? Marc and Shantall unpack the real price: friendships, marriage, identity, and why they would still do it again even knowing what they know now. This episode is for current CRNA students wondering if it is worth it, ICU nurses considering the leap, and anyone who has ever had to rebuild themselves after saying yes to something that changed everything. Marc knew it was over the day a preceptor snapped a photo mid patient turn, gray sweater, ac...
21 Apr 2026
Two CRNAs Walk Into a Podcast… - Episode 01
Marc asked Shantall one question. She started answering it — and stopped. Would you do it all over again? In the first episode of Clock Out and Connect, two CRNAs sit down and do what nobody in healthcare actually does: tell the truth about how they got here and what it cost. Shantall traces her path from the Dominican Republic to South Florida, to the Army, to Iraq, through nursing school, CRNA training, and a COVID ICU she never should have been pulled into. Marc takes you from Jamaica to b...
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