Cloud Experts Unleashed

About Cloud Experts Unleashed

Interviews with some of the experts in cloud and hosting industry. Our guests are on the front lines actually doing the work and giving you real world context.

Publisher

xByte Cloud

Category

news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

10 Mar 2023

Latest episode

2 Sept 2025

Latest episodes

42 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   2 Sept 2025

   Ben & Ryan Show - Bugs and Stuff

   Ben & Ryan Show Episode 24 In this episode, your hosts Ben Nadel and Ryan Brown go guest-free and take the opportunity to dive into ColdFusion bugs, guinea pig maintenance, and their latest experiments in app building and AI usage.They kick things off with some light banter, guinea pig parenting tips, and custom shoes, before transitioning into deep debugging talk, asynchronous programming quirks in ColdFusion 2025, and the evolving relationship developers have with AI tooling.Key Points• Ryan surprises Ben with custom ColdFusion-themed shoes for the upcoming CF Summit.• Ben shares two deep ColdFusion 2025 bugs related to asynchronous iteration and CFQuery behavior.• Big Sexy Poems—a side project by Ben—is being built using HTMX and AlpineJS with a ColdFusion backend.• Debugging ColdFusion edge cases requires intense reduction and isolation of code to find root causes.• Ryan and Ben discuss AI voice mode frustrations and using AI for sales and dev support—highlighting both promise and pitfalls.Ben introduces his new ColdFusion 2025 app, “Big Sexy Poems,” and why he built it.• The app helps poets count syllables, find rhymes, and synonyms using the Datamuse API.• Ben is rebuilding it to learn HTMX and AlpineJS in a real-world context.• ColdFusion 2025 forces him to rethink and modernize old code written for CF2021.• Features include caching, shareable links, and saving user poems.Ben outlines two complex ColdFusion bugs that derailed development.• Bug #1: CFQuery inside asynchronous iteration dumps SQL statements to the page.• Bug #2: A three-level deep array iteration causes closure variables to vanish.• Both bugs are confirmed to go back as far as ColdFusion 2021.• Fixes required rewriting code to remove async parallelism and use manual loops.They explore how to isolate and debug ColdFusion bugs in large codebases.• Ben shares his method: reduce files down to minimal reproducible cases.• Progressively merge and remove components until only the bug trigger remains.• Use CF’s ability to simulate services to isolate logic layers during debugging.• Debugging complex async issues often takes hours but can result in 20-line reproductions.Conversation pivots to AI tools, frustrations, and how Ryan uses AI for sales support.• Ben tried ChatGPT voice mode again and found it frustratingly sycophantic.• Ryan uses persona-driven GPTs to simulate sales coaches and customer role-play.• Operator and GPT Agents have shown promise in configuring servers from specs.• Even advanced tools sometimes fail mid-task or require lots of oversight.• The team plans a live Ben and Ryan Show at CF Summit to talk AI and dev tools in person.

2. 

   20 Aug 2025

   Ben & Ryan Show - Vibe Coding

   Ben & Ryan Show Episode 23 In this episode, your hosts Ben Nadel and Ryan Brown are joined by Mark Takata, Senior Technical Evangelist for Adobe ColdFusion, to dive deep into the evolving world of "vibe coding" and how AI is transforming development workflows. The trio explore the tools, mental friction, and cultural shifts developers face when working alongside AI, offering a mix of real-world use cases, developer gripes, and future-gazing insights into how AI might shape team structure and job roles. Key Points • Vibe coding is reshaping how developers approach prototyping, testing, and feature iteration using tools like Claude, ChatGPT, and Cursor • Developers are grappling with trust issues, debugging quirks, and the loss of "good friction" in the coding process • Cursor, a VS Code-based AI IDE, is emerging as a powerful tool for AI-assisted development and code generation at scale • AI could reshape team roles, potentially phasing out junior positions and introducing roles like AI coaches or prompt engineers • The group previews their upcoming live session at the Adobe ColdFusion Summit, where these AI coding dynamics will take center stage Vibe coding is introduced as a developer trend where AI tools generate code based on high-level input • Ben shares that his team's lead has spent months learning how to "steer" Claude and manage scope, memory, and output reliability • Ryan recounts building a Bingo app with ChatGPT, running into scope creep and frustrating regressions with each iteration • The team discusses the challenge of context loss and how to handle patching or manually adjusting code when working with AI Mark breaks down his real-world usage of Cursor and how it differs from using ChatGPT • Developers can open existing projects, give directions, and have Cursor fill in the gaps based on previous patterns • He highlights how he uses it to rapidly prototype ColdFusion demos, noting an increase in productivity and output • Cursor allows mixing Claude, GPT, and Check55 models for different task types • Pro-level versions of Cursor offer metrics, visibility into prompt volume, and sophisticated model orchestration Ben reflects on his preference for copy-paste workflows over AI generation • He points out the "non-deterministic" nature of AI and the potential for it to introduce unseen changes across entire files • The team debates whether AI is removing helpful friction that leads to better abstractions and more thoughtful code • The trio agrees that AI needs better guardrails and consistency for it to be fully trusted in production codebases The group explores how AI tools could evolve to meet professional coding standards • Cursor could serve as a CFQuery-like abstraction for AI tooling, handling the translation between models • AI-generated code may need standardization through community-driven templates or frameworks like PromptOS • The role of code review could shift, with AI models doing first-pass reviews and flagging issues for humans • Review at scale is a concern as AI-generated code grows in complexity and volume Ryan and Ben explore the idea of AI as a team member • Mark tells a story of a developer with a briefcase of AIs acting as a full software team • They discuss how AI may appeal more to managers than ICs due to the loss of individual agency • Ben shares concerns about how PR (pull request) reviews become unmanageable when AI floods teams with code • Mark mentions teams are already using multiple AIs to cross-review code before surfacing issues to humans The conversation shifts to how companies should approach AI adoption • There's concern about erasing junior roles and losing the traditional developer learning pipeline • Ryan suggests managers be transparent about whether the goal is augmentation or headcount reduction • Mark emphasizes the need for AI coaches—specialists who manage prompt libraries, usage patterns, and workflows

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   28 Jul 2025

   Ben & Ryan Show - BoxLang

   Ben & Ryan Show Episode 22 In this episode, your hosts Ben Nadel and Ryan Brown sit down with Luis Majano and Daniel Garcia from Ortus Solutions to dive deep into BoxLang, the dynamic new language for the JVM. From modular design to multi-runtime capabilities and modern tooling, this conversation explores past, present, and future of BoxLang. BoxLang is introduced as a dynamic JVM language designed to bring modularity, productivity, and compatibility to CFML and Java developers • Supports multiple parsers, including ColdFusion and Lucee • Designed for serverless, desktop, web, and embedded device runtimes • Built from scratch rather than forking existing JVM languages like Groovy • AST-driven transpilation makes it future-friendly and language-agnostic • Modular runtime allows lean deployments without unnecessary overhead The discussion explores the difference between static and dynamic languages and how BoxLang blends both paradigms for flexibility and control • Dynamic types allow runtime decisions and simpler syntax • Static typing can still be used where guardrails are helpful • Designed for developers who want modern language flexibility with compiler-like structure • Enables smoother transitions for CFML developers familiar with dynamic paradigms • Brings in innovations absent in the JVM space for over a decade Luis and Daniel outline how BoxLang was purposefully built to address long-standing developer frustrations and legacy CFML limitations • Entire language and ecosystem are modular and extensible • Supports CFML compatibility as a module—not a bolt-on • Developers can build and run only what they need (eg, no web stack for CLI apps) • Designed to work on everything from Lambda functions to ARM devices • Emphasizes maintainability and performance The team shares the adoption journey of BoxLang and how Java developers are responding to its flexibility and productivity tooling • Java developers can use BoxLang as a library or full language • Serverless and single-file conventions are major adoption drivers • In-person events like Into the Box helped validate its appeal • Clear demand for better tooling helped shape roadmap • Initial pushback has faded as understanding and usage grow Ortus highlights how AI has become integral to the BoxLang development process and future vision • Used AI tools (Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini) for documentation, peer reviews, and prototyping • Built a localized AI assistant for VSCode pre-trained on BoxLang docs • Introduced BXAI module to offer LLM integration with fluent APIs • Planning future MCP support to make apps LLM-ready by default • AI accelerates everything from code generation to user education The team discusses real-world adoption examples, Java interoperability, and long-awaited features like extending Java classes from CFML-like syntax • Solves long-standing CFML-to-Java interop issues • Allows implementing and extending Java classes natively • Libraries like Jedis or RabbitMQ now integrate easily • Demonstrated real-world migrations from legacy CFML (eg, RAILO) to BoxLang • Charting and frontend decisions still debated to avoid tech bloat Looking to the future, BoxLang's roadmap includes desktop runtimes, WebAssembly support, more IDE integrations, and merging CommandBox into BoxLang • Desktop runtime with Electron and JavaFX support • Azure and Android runtimes are next on the horizon • Migration of all Ortus projects to BoxLang underway • Goal is to empower developers to build anything—from scripting tools to full-stack apps https://try.boxlang.io/ https://www.boxlang.io/

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