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- 2025
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About Coffee with Spiritual Directors
This podcast is meant to be a resource for anyone curious about spiritual direction, for those longing to deepen their walk with God, and for pastors and leaders who want to rethink what spiritual formation could look like in the years ahead.
- Publisher
- Dan Lee
- Category
- religion & spirituality
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 20 Nov 2025
- Latest episode
- 5 Aug 2026
Latest episodes
13 episodes in the feed.

5 Aug 2026
12 Coffee with Fr. Emmanuel Morinelli
Join Dan Lee and Fr. Emmanuel Morinelli at St. Joseph’s Abbey for a conversation on the "missing link" in modern faith: the practice of silence. They discuss why 70% of pastors leave ministry and how contemplative prayer can prevent burnout and transform spiritual formation.Highlights:- The Formation Gap: Why faith often stays in the head and not the heart.- The Power of Silence: Starting the inner journey in a noisy world.- Sustaining Ministry: Using monastic wisdom to avoid burnout.- Contemplation vs. Action: How the inward journey fuels outward justice.Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction at St. Joseph's Abbey 1:35 - What is missing in Christian formation? 6:02 - Monastic life as a counterculture 9:55 - Spiritual direction vs. therapy 12:58 - Preventing burnout in ministry 18:02 - Bringing silence to urban life 25:17 - Reclaiming Christian meditation 33:28 - The inward vs. outward journey. Visit: https://spencerabbey.org/

4 Aug 2026
11 Coffee with Larry Jay
In this episode, host Dan Lee sits down with Reverend Dr. Lawrence (Larry) Jay, a spiritual director and the director of the Rolling Ridge Retreat and Conference Center in North Andover, Massachusetts. Key themes of this conversation include:The Spiritual Journey: Rev. Dr. Jay shares his personal transition from a mainline Protestant background into evangelical campus ministry, and eventually into the contemplative and mystical traditions of Franciscan spirituality (1:27 - 8:37).Defining Spiritual Direction: The two explore the nuances of spiritual direction, emphasizing that it is less about "directing" and more about listening, companioning, and providing a safe, sacred space for individuals to connect with the divine (11:04 - 14:05, 21:28 - 23:39).Head vs. Heart: A central focus of the discussion is the shift from purely intellectual approaches to faith ("the head") toward experiential, heart-centered spirituality ("the soul space"), which helps individuals process questions and doubts without judgment (10:04 - 11:03, 14:46 - 17:19).The Changing Church: Rev. Dr. Jay discusses the "rummage sale" or transitional state of the modern institutional church and how spiritual direction can offer support to those seeking deeper meaning outside or alongside traditional religious structures (32:55 - 41:17).Rolling Ridge: Information about the mission of Rolling Ridge Retreat and Conference Center and how interested individuals can access their network of spiritual directors or book retreat space (47:12 - 50:26).Contact: https://www.rollingridge.org/

3 Aug 2026
10 Coffee with Terry Timm
In this episode of "Coffee with Terry Timm," Dan Lee sits down with Terry Timm for an insightful conversation that redefines our understanding of spiritual formation and the future of the church. Moving beyond traditional leadership models, Terry shares his journey of discovering "holy listening" and how the practice of spiritual direction can serve as a vital lifeline for both pastors and congregations. Together, they explore the concept of "democratizing the spirit"—shifting from a top-down, information-heavy faith to one that prioritizes personal encounter and contemplative presence. Whether you’re navigating your own season of deconstruction or simply longing for a deeper, more genuine connection with God, this episode offers a warm and spacious look at how we can all learn to hear the "sound of the genuine" in our own lives. Contact Terry by visiting: https://attunetogrow.org/ or https://terrytimm.com/

21 Mar 2026
09 Coffee with Nancy Ebner
In this episode of "Coffee with Nancy Ebner," Dan Lee sits down with retired pastor Nancy Edner to discuss her journey from lay leadership to seminary and pastoral ministry (0:01-5:03). The conversation explores her experience with spiritual direction for over 15 years, how it shaped her ability to pastor, and her transition into becoming a trained spiritual director after retiring in 2020 (5:35-9:25). Contact Nancy Ebner by visiting https://eccacsd.org/stylisticmodal/nancy-ebner

16 Feb 2026
08 Coffee with Jenn Layte
In this episode of "Coffee with Jenn Layte," Jen Layte, a spiritual director, chaplain, and pastor, shares her unique journey and insights into spiritual direction. She discusses the differences between spiritual direction and traditional pastoral ministry (9:43), the challenges churches face in being trauma-informed and addressing forgiveness (26:47), and her vision for reimagining spiritual formation through contemplative practices and understanding the stages of faith (35:50). Tune in to discover how she helps individuals and churches foster deeper relationships with God and themselves. Contact Jenn Layte by visiting https://the-pilgrimage.org/ Published book: “Follower: How Getting Close to Jesus Brings You to Yourself” - https://a.co/d/072jmKch

24 Dec 2025
07 Coffee with Neal Windham
In this episode of "Coffee with Neal Windham," Dan Lee sits down with spiritual director Neal Windham to explore his unique vocational journey. Neal shares his transition from teaching Greek and pastoring to his current ministry in spiritual direction. The conversation highlights the value and growing need for spiritual direction among pastors and church leaders (4:27), delving into its role in spiritual formation (16:37) and how it addresses the challenges of contemporary ministry. They also discuss the practicalities of implementing spiritual direction in church settings, emphasizing the importance of "holy listening" (31:51) and "practicing the presence of God" (39:56) in a busy world. Neal reflects on how becoming a spiritual director has profoundly changed him, fostering a more contemplative approach to life and a deeper appreciation for human connection and diverse spiritual paths (44:02). Contact Neal for spiritual direction: rnwindham@gmail.com, or 217-737-2400

12 Dec 2025
06 Coffee with Nita Kotiuga
06 Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with Nita Kotiuga, the director of spiritual formation at Bakke Graduate University, discusses her journey into spiritual direction and her experiences as a former pastor (0:06). She shares how her personal quest for a deeper faith led her to seek spiritual direction and eventually become a spiritual director herself (0:35). Nita highlights the unique aspects of spiritual direction, emphasizing the importance of a director's attentive listening and the freedom for individuals to explore their spiritual walk without an agenda (5:21). The conversation also delves into the differences between pastoral ministry and spiritual direction, particularly regarding time commitment and training in attentive listening (12:28). Nita identifies the biggest challenge facing the church today as a lack of "depth" in people's experience with God, often exacerbated by the quick-fix nature of modern life (25:00). She advocates for spiritual direction as a foundational practice for Christians to withstand hardship and develop a profound, trusting relationship with God (36:05). Nita concludes by advising pastors to seek their own spiritual directors and encourages anyone experiencing a spiritual hunger to explore spiritual direction (38:09, 39:22).

10 Dec 2025
05 Coffee with Bridget Black
Episode 05 of Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with Bridget Black, a spiritual director in Southern California who describes her practice as therapeutic spiritual direction (0:32). Drawing from years of ministry (1:29), seminary study (1:50), and work in the psychological and therapeutic world (0:36), Bridget weaves together soul care, trauma-informed presence (20:38), and spiritual discernment to create a spacious room where the personal and the spiritual meet (0:58). Dan and Bridget talk about prophetic listening (8:31), why questions and doubts belong in prayer (11:07), how practices like the Examen can ground us, and where spiritual direction fits in the future of the church (35:10). If you are longing for a companion who can hold both your story and your nervous system, this episode offers a hopeful and healing vision of what spiritual direction can be.

7 Dec 2025
04 Coffee with Alison Moscoso
Episode 04 of Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with Alison Moscoso, a BIPOC spiritual director and Dan Lee's former coworker at ReWire (0:10). Alison's ministry focuses on helping people who have been hurt by the church find a more expansive spirituality (2:38). She explains how spiritual direction differs from pastoral work and therapy, emphasizing its agenda-free, witnessing role (11:13). Alison shares her passion for working with those outside the church, who often exhibit a deeper hunger for God (17:39). She highlights that being a spiritual director has profoundly shaped her, keeping her anchored even in her own doubts (24:53). Alison identifies the biggest challenge facing the church as "high control dynamics," which outsource individual autonomy and can lead to dangerous outcomes like Christian nationalism (27:48). She clarifies that spiritual direction is an ancient practice, not new, and the "direction" comes from the individual and God, not the director (39:45). You can find Alison at https://www.alisonmoscoso.com/ (https://www.alisonmoscoso.com/)

7 Dec 2025
03 Coffee with Sandra Soto
Episode 03 of Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with Sandra Soto, a BIPOC spiritual director serving in both traditional and non-traditional church contexts in Boston and the surrounding area. Dan and Sandra talk about her journey, what it means to walk with people who are deconstructing and reconstructing their faith, and how spiritual direction can create healing spaces for those who feel in-between. If you have felt on the edges of church or uncertain about your place in faith communities, this episode will help you feel seen and less alone. Listen in and consider how Sandra’s gentle, grounded presence might invite you to honor your own story with God. You can reach her via smsoto63@gmail.com

6 Dec 2025
02 Coffee with Jess Allan
Episode 02 of Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with Jess Allan, a worship pastor and spiritual director. Dan and Jess explore her journey into ministry and spiritual direction, and the unique way holy listening meets needs that are often missed in church and in worshipful life.If you are longing for deeper connection with God beneath the noise of church life, this conversation will give you language and hope for what your heart has been sensing. Listen in and imagine how holy listening might reshape your own life and ministry. Contact Jess at mizallan@gmail.com

20 Nov 2025
01 Coffee with John March
Episode 01 of Coffee with Spiritual Directors features a conversation with John March, a former church planter who now serves as a spiritual director. Dan and John explore his journey into ministry and spiritual direction, the limits he encountered as a pastor, and the unique way holy listening meets needs that are often missed in church life. Along the way, John reflects on the challenges facing the church today, the future role of spiritual direction, and the practices he most hopes Christians and pastors will embrace. Find John here at https://johnbmarch.com/ or https://www.leadershiptransformations.org/directory-of-spiritual-directors/march-john/

20 Nov 2025
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