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Complex Couples Podcast

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by Heidi Applegarth

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Welcome! This is a space where your marriage matters, your values matter, and your choices matter. I’m Heidi, a couples therapist and founder of Complex Couples Coaching. I help couples navigate complex marriages, especially where mixed-orientation, desire discrepancies, attraction changes, or mixed gender identity play a role. My goal is to help you see your relationship clearly and make decisions rooted in integrity rather than fear. Learn to navigate complicated issues so you can make choices and thrive in whatever choice you make. Join me as I share insights about marriage that specifically apply to your situation. I’ll walk you through complicated issues such as: • What to do when your husband or wife comes out as gay, bisexual or trans • Whether mixed-orientation marriages can thrive or just merely survive • How attraction works and if you have to give it up if you want to stay married • Loss of desire in long-term marriage and how to get it back • Navigating high-conflict situations in a way that increases self-respect • Working through feelings of resentment • Rebuilding trust after emotional betrayal or secrets Subscribe and join a community of people committed to allowing marriage to shape them into better humans.

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June 23, 2026

The Self-Deception That’s Easy to Miss and The Power That Is Hidden There

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Upcoming Workshop: Understanding the Real Conflict&nbsp;<br></span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Register here</strong> ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.ComplexCouplesCoaching.com/workshop</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There's a kind of self-deception that has nothing to do with making excuses, and I want to walk you through it.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, I'm exploring something about self-deception I don't think gets talked about enough, and I'm sharing a personal story I haven't told quite this way before.</span></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">A&nbsp;question I think most of us avoid asking ourselves.</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">A&nbsp;moment from my own marriage that changed how I think about what I saw and didn't say.</span></li> </ul> <h2>This Week's Invitation<span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></h2> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I want you to sit with one question this week. Is there a moment you've looked away from, and what would you notice about yourself if you looked again?</span></p> <h2>Let’s Connect</h2> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Upcoming Workshop: Understanding the Real Conflict&nbsp;<br></span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Register here</strong> ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.ComplexCouplesCoaching.com/workshop</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Interested in private coaching?</strong><br></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Learn more ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Join me on my YouTube channel Complex Couples Podcast</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">FREE Guide "</span>When Your Spouse Comes Out: <span style="font-weight: 400;">9 practical</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> tools to help you navigate the aftermath of disclosure or discovery." ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/guide"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/guide</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Question, comment, or topic you'd like me to discuss?</strong> <br>Email me at: </span><a href="mailto:heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com">heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com</a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p>

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June 16, 2026

The Biggest Problem I See In My Office. What If They’re Right?

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Upcoming Workshop: Understanding the Real Conflict. Learn&nbsp;a tool you'll use again and again.<br></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Space is limited. Register now ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.ComplexCouplesCoaching.com/workshop</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Most couples come into my office convinced they know exactly what the problem is. But what if the thing creating the most friction in your relationship isn't what you think it is?&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, I share one of the most common patterns I see in conflict and why it can be so difficult to recognize in ourselves.</span></p> <ul> <li><span style="font-weight: 400;"> The relationship dynamic I see more often than disagreements about money, sex, parenting, or in-laws</span></li> <li><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Why we tend to feel so certain we're seeing the situation clearly</span></li> <li><span style="font-weight: 400;"> A simple question that can completely change how you approach conflict</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></li> </ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h2>This Week's Invitation</h2> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The next time you find yourself frustrated with someone, pause before deciding they're the problem. Spend a few minutes wondering what you might not be seeing yet.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h2>Resources</h2> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Book: Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Article: </span><strong><a href="https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2428&amp;context=byusq" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What We Are</a></strong><span style="font-weight: 400;"> by C Terry Warner</span></p> <h2>Connect</h2> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Interested in private coaching?<br></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Apply here&nbsp;➡ </span><strong><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application</a>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">FREE Guide "</span>When Your Spouse Comes Out: <span style="font-weight: 400;">9 practical</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> tools to help you navigate the aftermath of disclosure or discovery." ➡ </span><strong><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/guide">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/guide</a>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Join me on my YouTube channel Complex Couples Podcast</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast</a>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Have questions or a story to share? ➡ </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/questions">complexcouplescoaching.com/questions</a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Email me at: </span><a href="mailto:heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com">heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com</a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Your emails help shape future episodes. You don’t have to face this alone.</span></p>

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June 9, 2026

Daniel Episode: Post Disclosure Struggles - Seeing Your Spouse in a New Way

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Reminder!&nbsp; Join a live workshop with Heidi on June 24th! Click <a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop">HERE</a> to register</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What happens when one spouse needs answers and the other doesn't have them? How do couples navigate difficult conversations when there is no perfect roadmap? And what helps a marriage grow stronger when both partners are facing uncertainty?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Join us for an honest discussion about disclosure, intimacy, communication, and the realities of working through complex questions together.</span></p> <h3>In This Episode</h3> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">One of the biggest surprises we encountered after disclosure</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why some questions are harder to answer than others</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The challenges of navigating uncertainty in marriage</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">How couples can approach difficult conversations with greater understanding</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">What helped us stay connected during a challenging season</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why there is no perfect formula for working through disclosure</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">📧 Questions or topic suggestions:</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><a href="mailto:heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">heidi@complexcouplescoaching.com</span></a></p> <h3>Feeling Stuck in a Relationship Problem You Can't Solve?</h3> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you keep asking yourself:</span></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why do we keep having this fight?</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why can't I let this go?</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why do I feel so angry, hurt, or stuck?</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why do I know what I should do, but still can't do it?</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You may be facing a </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Two-Choice Dilemma</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this live 90-minute workshop, I'll help you identify the real conflict underneath the conflict and show you a practical framework for moving forward with greater clarity, courage, and integrity.</span></p> <p>📅 June 24, 2026<br>⏰ 1:00–2:30 PM Central<br>💲 $39</p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">➡️ Register here: </span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/workshop</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">🌐 Complex Couples Coaching:</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><a href="https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.complexcouplescoaching.com/coaching-application</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">YouTube channel Complex Couples Podcast</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@complexcouplespodcast</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">🎙️ Complex Couples Podcast:</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br></span><a href="https://complexcouplescoaching.com/podcast"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://complexcouplescoaching.com/podcast</span></a></p> <h3>Connect With Heidi</h3> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you're navigating the complexities of disclosure, mixed-orientation marriage, or relationship uncertainty, you're not alone. My goal is to help individuals and couples move from confusion and reactivity toward greater clarity, courage, and integrity.</span></p>

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What is Complex Couples Podcast?

Welcome! This is a space where your marriage matters, your values matter, and your choices matter.

I’m Heidi, a couples therapist and founder of Complex Couples Coaching. I help couples navigate complex marriages, especially where mixed-orientation, desire discrepancies, attraction changes, or mixed gender identity play a role.

My goal is to help you see your relationship clearly and make decisions rooted in integrity rather than fear.

Learn to navigate complicated issues so you can make choices and thrive in whatever choice you make.

Join me as I share insights about marriage that specifically apply to your situation.

I’ll walk you through complicated issues such as: • What to do when your husband or wife comes out as gay, bisexual or trans • Whether mixed-orientation marriages can thrive or just merely survive • How attraction works and if you have to give it up if you want to stay married • Loss of desire in long-term marriage and how to get it back • Navigating high-conflict situations in a way that increases self-respect • Working through feelings of resentment • Rebuilding trust after emotional betrayal or secrets

Subscribe and join a community of people committed to allowing marriage to shape them into better humans.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

Where can I listen to this podcast?

This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.

Does this podcast accept guests?

No, this podcast does not typically feature guests.

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