- 19
- Episodes
- 2023
- First episode
About Converging Apostasy
Converging Apostasy tracks how modern Christian movements drift — often slowly, then all at once — when revival culture, celebrity influence, conspiracy thinking, political power, and spiritual experiences merge into a single force. Hosted by John Collins, each episode maps the intersections: where ideas originate, how networks spread them, and why "unity," "authority," and "signs and wonders" language can become cover for manipulation, abuse, and doctrinal collapse. Expect documented timelines, primary sources, and clear analysis designed to help listeners recognize patterns early and stay grounded in historic Christianity. Views expressed by guests or co-hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Derby Media Group LLC. Website: https://william-branham.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LeavingtheMessage Legal: https://william-branham.org/legal
- Publisher
- William Branham Historical Research
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- religion & spirituality
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 27 Nov 2023
- Latest episode
- 7 Mar 2026
Latest episodes
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7 Mar 2026
Does The NAR Target Denominational Churches
John and Steve map the ways New Apostolic Reformation ideas can enter churches that do not identify as charismatic, often through study materials, guest speakers, music networks, conferences, and "supplemental" discipleship programs that seem harmless at first glance. They also explain why language around authority, "covering," fivefold governance, and experiential spirituality can function as a pipeline for more controlling structures—especially when accountability only flows upward. The goal is not panic, but awareness: knowing what to watch for, how to ask better questions, and how to protect healthy church life from authoritarian drift. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ - Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham - Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
13 Nov 2025
From Savitri Devi to the Devil to the NAR
John and Steve trace the ideological roots of mystical fascism and its unsettling influence on modern religious movements. They uncover how thinkers like Savitri Devi, Helena Blavatsky, and Alice Bailey shaped occult traditions that fed into Nazi spirituality—ideas that later resurfaced in Christian Identity, Latter Rain, and the New Apostolic Reformation. Together they explore how mysticism, dominionism, and political power converge into what Steve calls a "weaponization of Christianity," connecting early 20th-century esoteric fascism to the rhetoric of modern revivalists. Through themes like divine unity, eugenics, and "ongoing revelation," they reveal how the same doctrines once used to justify racial purification now appear repackaged as "kingdom power" and "apostolic authority." This episode dives deep into the historical cross-pollination of mysticism, nationalism, and religion—showing how the pursuit of a "divine world order" has too often led to destruction instead of redemption. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ - Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham - Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ
4 Sept 2025
Apostasy Across Continents: Branhamism, Latter Rain, and Africa’s Revival
28 Aug 2025
Converging Apostasy: Russian Mysticism Meets the NAR
John and Steve discuss the connections between Russian mysticism, Persian Sufi thought, and the modern New Apostolic Reformation. They explore how figures like Jacob Boehme, Emmanuel Swedenborg, and ancient Persian mystics shaped theological concepts such as angelology and union with the divine. The conversation highlights how mystical and esoteric streams have influenced various Christian movements, from Orthodox traditions to charismatic groups, drawing parallels between historic syncretism and contemporary trends. Along the way, Steve stumbles on a few phrases, restarting his sentences with humor, and both hosts use these light moments to transition into deeper analysis. The discussion covers major Russian thinkers like Vladimir Solovyev, Alexander Dugin, and Nikolai Berdyaev, examining how their visions of unity, dominion, and eschatology intersect with themes in Western religious movements. They trace historical and ideological links through Henry Corbin's synthesis of Orthodox and Islamic mysticism, the blending of Illuminism with Neoplatonic thought, and the adaptation of these ideas in modern movements. John and Steve also reflect on how such converging streams can create unstable alliances and influence political and spiritual landscapes worldwide, while cautioning about the dangers of these theological mergers. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ - Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham - Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
24 Jul 2025
Circle of Apostasy: Russian Mysticism & the Rise of Charismatic Extremes | Converging Apostasy
John and Steve discuss the intersection of Russian mysticism and modern charismatic extremism, beginning with a humorous account of a road trip through Houston that leads into a serious exploration of converging apostasy from both the political right and left. They contrast bumper sticker slogans to introduce the overlap between nationalist rhetoric and esoteric spirituality. This opens a deep dive into neoplatonic angelology in music and pop theology, especially Trisha Yearwood's "Bringing the Angels," which Steve argues mirrors mystical beliefs about calling down supernatural powers through human will—a trend also observed in Latter Rain and NAR movements. They trace how charismatic extremism mirrors historic Russian sects such as the Khlysts (Khlysty), led by figures who claimed to be Christ and used ecstatic rituals, self-flagellation, and euphoric dance. John connects this directly to William Branham and later figures in the NAR who blur the line between prophet and messiah. As they examine how these mystical movements migrated from Russia to the U.S. and Canada, they expose disturbing parallels—such as public nudity, arson, and authoritarian religiosity—while tying in American Christian identity teachings, Branham's relationship with political figures, and occult influencers. The conversation ends with a preview of a future episode continuing this historical analysis. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ - Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham - Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
5 Jun 2025
From Neoplatonism to Prophetic Madness: Why the NAR Isn’t Christian
John and Steve explore how the teachings of Neoplatonism and ancient mystery religions have resurfaced in modern charismatic movements, particularly the New Apostolic Reformation. They trace a theological lineage from esoteric figures like Plotinus and Valentinus to revivalists such as William Branham and Jane Leade, showing how beliefs in angelic intermediaries, spiritual perfection, and mystical portals distort core Christian doctrine. Throughout the discussion, they examine how these ideas shaped doctrines of personal revelation, divine authority, and supernatural empowerment—often replacing the Holy Spirit with unbiblical concepts. The episode highlights how modern prophets, healers, and influencers draw from occult systems to claim divine status or command angelic beings. Branham’s pyramid theology, the Latter Rain’s esoteric symbolism, and the NAR’s obsession with angelic access are exposed as repackaged forms of ancient heresies. With clarity and historical depth, John and Steve demonstrate how these movements confuse emotional experience with biblical truth and how easily followers become trapped in a system where perfection comes not through Christ, but through secret knowledge and mystical encounter. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
20 Mar 2025
Endless NAR Tentacles: Unraveling Elitist Cults
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 John and Steve discuss the intricate historical connections between various theological movements, focusing on the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its doctrinal roots. They delve into the influence of figures like T. Austin Sparks, Watchman Nee, and Jane Leed, tracing the evolution of key theological concepts such as the Manifested Sons of God, church authority, and elitist spiritual teachings. Their conversation highlights how these ideas were woven through movements like the Latter Rain, Pentecostalism, and the Shepherding Movement, shaping the landscape of modern charismatic theology. They explore how certain teachings, once considered controversial, have become widely accepted within evangelical circles, particularly regarding spiritual authority, submission, and the idea of a spiritually elite group within the broader Christian community. Throughout the discussion, they analyze the impact of historical figures and theological trends on contemporary movements, identifying patterns of spiritual hierarchy, exclusivity, and authoritarian leadership. They emphasize the dangers of extra-biblical teachings that prioritize submission to human authority over biblical doctrine, drawing parallels to cult-like structures. The conversation also touches on the role of media and literature in propagating these ideas, with figures such as Bill Hamon and William Branham reinforcing these themes. Ultimately, John and Steve advocate for critical examination and historical research to expose the origins and implications of these teachings, encouraging vigilance against manipulation within religious movements.
30 Jan 2025
The Elijah Company: Myths, Movements, and Messianic Claims - The Converging Apostasy
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K John and Steve discuss the history and evolution of various religious movements that have influenced modern beliefs. They examine how figures such as William Branham, Ern Baxter, and Derek Prince contributed to the development of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its ties to the shepherding movement. Steve shares insights from historical documents, including the magazine People of Destiny, which continued the themes of the earlier shepherding movement under different branding. Throughout the discussion, they trace the influence of esoteric figures and concepts, such as Jane Leed and her teachings on spiritual perfection, as well as the corporate Elijah identity that has persisted in various forms through the centuries. The conversation also explores the role of certain individuals and theological ideas in shaping movements like the Latter Rain and charismatic teachings. They discuss figures such as James Watt, Paul Cain, and Jennifer Leclerc, linking their teachings to earlier influences like Joachim of Fiore and Origen. John highlights how some of these figures embraced metaphorical interpretations and mysticism, which led to controversial doctrines such as the pre-existence of souls and reincarnation. As they analyze the historical connections and doctrinal shifts, they emphasize how these ideas have converged over time to form the basis of many present-day movements.
30 Oct 2024
Converging Apostasy: A "Swift" Trip to the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K John and Steve explore the intricate history and influence of fringe religious movements on the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). They begin by discussing Wesley Swift’s role in shaping esoteric doctrines, particularly his racist and anti-Semitic ideologies that were adopted by certain sects. John reflects on growing up within a religious movement that promoted such teachings and the shock of discovering their origins. The conversation delves into how figures like William Branham, Swift, and others have cross-pollinated their beliefs, ultimately influencing the development of the NAR. They also touch on how UFOs, pyramids, and ancient mysteries became integral to these groups’ teachings, blending theological, spiritual, and often racial concepts into a hybrid belief system. Throughout their discussion, John and Steve link historical ideologies, tracing them to modern religious movements and examining their ongoing impact. They uncover how the Manifest Sons of God movement, British Israelism, and Christian Identity have influenced today’s NAR. The hosts emphasize how extra-biblical texts and ongoing revelation serve as a foundation for many of these groups’ beliefs. By analyzing these key doctrines, they show how contemporary movements, while less overtly connected to racism, still draw from theological frameworks rooted in these controversial pasts.
19 Aug 2024
Converging Apostasy: Will The NAR Go That Far?
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast John and Steve examine the complex historical and theological underpinnings of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its ties to earlier religious movements, particularly Christian Identity and the Latter Rain. The hosts discuss the emerging doctrinal themes of the NAR, such as dominion theology and end-time prophecies, questioning their alignment with traditional Christian beliefs. They highlight disturbing elements within the NAR, such as the militarization of theology and the conflation of Christian and non-Christian spiritual ideas, warning that these trends may lead to a false kingdom with a false Christ. The conversation reflects on how the NAR borrows from both New Age and Gnostic teachings, with figures like Jane Leade and Alice Bailey being cited for their influence on modern religious movements. As the hosts explore these connections, they focus on the alarming parallels between the NAR and occult beliefs. They discuss figures like Aleister Crowley and his influence on religious thinking, and how some NAR leaders are adopting practices and ideologies that align with esoteric and Luciferian thought. The episode also reflects on how deceptive teachings can slowly erode the line between good and evil, leading believers into dangerous territory. By tracing the theological roots and contemporary manifestations of these movements, the hosts provide a critical analysis that seeks to expose their underlying dangers, particularly for Christians who may unknowingly be led astray by these teachings.
8 Jul 2024
Converging Apostasy: Vladimir Solovyov and the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast John and Steve discuss the influence of propaganda within religious and political spheres, drawing parallels between the tactics used by the NAR and other esoteric and mystical traditions. They explore how these movements manipulate vague scriptural passages to propagate their agendas, highlighting the dangers of such practices. The conversation also touches on the historical roots and evolution of these ideas, tracing their connections back to figures like Vladimir Soloviev and the impact of his philosophies on current religious and political thought. The episode emphasizes the convergence of various apostate movements and the role of propaganda in shaping public opinion and religious beliefs. The hosts discuss the manipulative techniques used by leaders within these movements to create a sense of urgency and unity among followers, often leading to divisive and harmful outcomes. They also reflect on their personal experiences and the challenges faced by individuals trying to escape such manipulative environments. The discussion underscores the importance of critical thinking and discernment in navigating the complex landscape of modern religious and political movements.
17 Jun 2024
Converging Apostasy: NAR Dehumanization and the Sacred Purge
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve Montgomery and John Collins discuss the NAR (and various splinter groups that led to the NAR) methods for the dehumanization of non-members and the so-called "sacred purge."
27 May 2024
Converging Apostasy: The NAR Manchild
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve Montgomery and John Collins discuss the origins and development of the NAR Manchild doctrine. We discuss: * Jane Lead * Bill Britton * Sam Fife * Christian Identity
29 Apr 2024
Converging Apostasy: Jane Lead, Bill Britton, and the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve and John discuss the unusual doctrines that transferred from Jane Lead through Bill Britton and others into the NAR Steve's books: Converging Apostasy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP18CRYG A Quick Outline of "Hands-on" Eschatology: A Matter of Timing and Agency: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTFY85FR
8 Apr 2024
Converging Apostasy: Mysticism, Britton, Fife and the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve and John discuss the themes of mysticism that flowed through Sam Fife and Bill Britton into the NAR Steve's books: Converging Apostasy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP18CRYG A Quick Outline of "Hands-on" Eschatology: A Matter of Timing and Agency: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTFY85FR ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books
26 Feb 2024
Converging Apostasy: From Jane Lead to Christian Identity Part 2
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve and John discuss the connection between the "Christian Mystic" Jane Lead and the Christian Identity Movement and how the convergence of the two influenced the New Apostolic Reformation. Steve's books: Converging Apostasy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP18CRYG A Quick Outline of "Hands-on" Eschatology: A Matter of Timing and Agency: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTFY85FR
19 Feb 2024
Converging Apostasy: From Jane Lead to Christian Identity
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Steve and John discuss the connection between the "Christian Mystic" Jane Lead and the Christian Identity Movement, and how the convergence of the two influenced the New Apostolic Reformation.
1 Jan 2024
Converging Apostasy: Jane Lead’s Influence on the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast John invites author Stephen Montgomery to discuss Converging Apostasy within the New Apostolic Reformation. Stephen Montgomery's Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJLCRMF7 Weaponized Religion: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160946 Jane Lead: https://william-branham.org/site/research/people/jane_lead We discuss: * Jane Lead's Sixty Propositions * Influence of Jane Lead's writings on British Israelism, Pentecostalism, Latter Rain, and the NAR * Esoteric themes that came from Jane Lead
27 Nov 2023
Converging Apostasy: From Gnosticism to the NAR
Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast Stephen Montgomery's Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJLCRMF7 John invites author Stephen Montgomery to discuss Converging Apostasy within the New Apostolic Reformation. We discuss: * Interviews with key figures in the NAR * Ties to Gnosticms through Valentinus * Jane Lead * British Israelism and Christian Identity ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books
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