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Chris Morrison and Jane Secker (UK Copyright Literacy)
Copyright Waffle Episode 29 with The Rt. Hon. Professor Sir Robin Jacob
Jane and Chris from copyrightliteracy.org talk to their most distinguished guest to date - copyright legend the Rt. Hon. Professor Sir Robin Jacob.
Robin talks about his journey from physics student at Cambridge through to his life as a barrister and eventually High Court judge. He gives us the inside scoop on the cases he defended and presided over and talks about some of his copyright heroes. And of course he tells us the name of his favourite cake.
This podcast interview was recorded on 15 January 2025. We are extremely grateful to Robin for his time and for his patience while he waited for us to finish this edit.
Robin's copyright heroes:
- William (Bill) Cornish - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cornish
- Hugh Laddie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Laddie
- Peter Prescott - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Prescott_(barrister)
- Anthony Walton - https://iporalhistory.co.uk/project/walton-anthony/
- Thomas Blanco White - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Blanco_White
Some selected cases:
- EMI Music Publishing vs Papathanasiou (Vangelis, Chariots of Fire): https://www.lostinmusic.org/cases/detail/16-emi-music-publishing-vs-papathanasiou-spheric
- Hyperion Records vs Sawkins: https://www.5rb.com/case/hyperion-records-ltd-v-sawkins/
- Interlego AG v Tyco Industries Inc (the Lego case): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlego_AG_v_Tyco_Industries_Inc
- Columbia Graphophone case: https://www.lostinmusic.org/cases/detail/10-frederic-austin-vs-columbia-gramophone-co
22 Jul 2025
Copyright Waffle Episode 28 with Monica Westin
Chris and Jane (copyrightliteracy.org) talk to upcoming Icepops keynote Monica Westin about her journey from library school, through to Google, Manchester Metropolitan University and now to Cambridge University Press. We discuss how big tech companies deal with copyright takedown requests, what the legal and ethnical implications of new technologies are on finding and accessing information and finally what her favourite cake is.
With thanks to Aiden Clark for his editing support on this episode.
Monica's blog: https://www.monicawestin.com/
Monica will be our keynote at Icepops 2025: https://copyrightliteracy.org/2025/07/17/icepops-2025-draft-programme-now-available/
California Digital Library: https://cdlib.org/
Google Scholar co-founder Anurag Acharya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anurag_Acharya
DMCA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
Google transparency reports: https://transparencyreport.google.com/?hl=en_GB
Project Lumen: https://cyber.harvard.edu/research/lumen
Internet Archive Scholar: https://scholar.archive.org/
Mark Graham: https://blog.archive.org/author/mark/
Copyright heroes
Alyce Scott: https://ischool.sjsu.edu/post/alyce-scott
Katie Fortney https://cdlib.org/contact/staff_directory/katie-fortney-staff-profile/ and Rachael Samberg: https://www.lib.berkeley.edu/help/staff-directory/rachael-samberg
TorrentFreak: https://torrentfreak.com/
Creative Commons team: https://creativecommons.org/mission/team/
Google Scholar co-founder Anurag Acharya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anurag_Acharya
Louise Koch at MMU
Cake
NYT Plum Torte recipe: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/3783-original-plum-torte or: https://coleycooks.com/plum-torte/
20th Century Cafe Honey Cake: https://www.thebutterlab.com/blog/honeycake
11 Aug 2024
Copyright Waffle Episode 27 with Carl Magnus Palm - ABBA expert
Chris and Jane (copyrightliteracy.org) talk to researcher, author and the world's leading expert on all things ABBA - Carl Magnus Palm. They discuss ABBA's origins and the division of creative labour in the band, how the band got their name, the ABBA revival in the 1990s and how they have responded to the huge number of tribute acts. They also share stories of the authorised and unauthorised uses of ABBA's music and once again get dragged into the weird world of the KLF.
Links to things mentioned in the show:
Abba at 50 in the news and BBC documentary:
https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2024/the-bbc-celebrates-abba-in-april-50-years-since-their-eurovision-win-in-1974 and https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b03lyzpr/abba-at-the-bbc
Carl Magnus's book Abba at 50: https://www.amazon.co.uk/ABBA-at-Carl-Magnus-Palm/dp/1786751011
Carl Magnus's website including his new book (Abba on Record): https://www.carlmagnuspalm.com/
https://www.carlmagnuspalm.com/abba/abba-books
Link back to Mark Lewisohn Copyright Waffle podcast:
https://soundcloud.com/user-243274189/copyright-waffle-episode-20-with-mark-lewisohn-part-1
Pop Pantheon podcast with DJ Louis XIV and Carl Magnus Palm: http://share.transistor.fm/s/1455862b?fbclid=IwAR0khgA-PDB3dUjTQn6B1hP20Ftj1yy76DWwZ8X-WkDQf3BHUr3s7tMwjY0
Abba Mania and trade mark infringement case:
https://collyerbristow.com/shorter-reads/abba-sues-official-tribute-band/
https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/abba-settles-lawsuit-against-tribute-band-over-abba-mania-name-2022-01-21/
George Mcrae's Rock Your Baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKXui6_y2HM and the Wikipedia article about the song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Your_Baby
https://www.smoothradio.com/features/abba-dancing-queen-meaning-facts-lyrics-video/
Blurred Lines case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharrell_Williams_v._Bridgeport_Music
Simon Anderson Copyright waffle podcast: https://copyrightliteracy.org/2019/12/16/musical-waffling-with-simon-anderson/
Simon Anderson lecture at Glasgow: https://www.create.ac.uk/news/2017/02/21/anderson-2017/
Dancing Queen by the JAMMs (precursor to the KLF): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJUyqhj4zMM
Link to John Higgs book on the KLF: https://johnhiggs.com/books/the-klf/ and podcast: https://soundcloud.com/user-243274189/copyright-waffle-episode-27-with-john-higgs
Madonna samples Abba's Gimme, gimme, gimme in 'Hung up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_Up
The Fugees sample's the Name of the Game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_in_the_Jungle_(song)
Abba National advert from 1976: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpCjM1XgPU
Swedish Music Archive: https://www.svenskmusik.org/en
Bjorn Ulvaeus President of CISAC: https://www.cisac.org/Newsroom/news-releases/bjorn-ulvaeus-elected-next-president-cisac
Abba Voyage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA_Voyage Official website: http://abbavoyage.com/
Abba canned fish company: https://www.abbaseafood.com/
Knowing me, knowing you with Alan Partridge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_Me_Knowing_You_with_Alan_Partridge_(TV_series)
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