A podcast that highlights Baylor Law School students and their interesting and varied experiences. In each episode, Dean Jeremy Counseller sits down with a current student to discuss their unique path to law, diverse background, and future aspirations.
Whether you’re a current or prospective student, an alum, or simply curious about life at Baylor Law School, Counseller’s Corner offers an inspiring glimpse into the talent, passion, and determination of future Baylor Lawyers.
A New Stage, A New Calling: Joey Goodale on Finding His Voice at Baylor Law School
What do opera and oral advocacy have in common? For Baylor Law School student Joey Goodale, the connection is stronger than one might expect. After studying music at Dallas Baptist University and earning a master’s degree in voice from Southern Methodist University, Goodale performed with Opera Colorado and the Glimmerglass Festival before reconsidering a career that would require years of extensive travel. His longstanding interest in the legal profession eventually brought him to Baylor Law School, where his experience as a performer has proven unexpectedly beneficial.
In this episode of Counseller’s Corner, Dean Jeremy Counseller speaks with Goodale about his transition from professional music to legal education, managing performance anxiety, and exploring the similarities between preparing for a stage performance and presenting an argument in court.
Goodale also discusses the challenges he faced as a first-generation law student and the importance of connecting with practicing attorneys through Baylor Law’s professional development programs. He reflects on reaching the semifinals of Baylor Law School’s Durham Pittard Spalding Kaufman & Hollingsworth Fall Moot Court Competition, earning a Top 10 Speaker award, and his growing interest in civil litigation and appellate advocacy. Outside the classroom, Goodale continues to share his musical background through a student vocal quartet, Voices of Baylor Law. From the discipline of classical performance to the demands of legal advocacy, his conversation with Dean Counseller offers an engaging perspective on the diverse experiences and interests that students bring to Baylor Law School.
22 Oct 2026
A Gavel’s Impact: The Childhood Moment That Inspired Labrina Ware
When third-year Baylor Law School student Labrina Ware was just six years old, an unexpected encounter in a courtroom had a profound impact on her life. During a difficult chapter of her childhood, a judge’s simple act of kindness helped shape her perception of the law. That moment sparked a dream of becoming a lawyer, one that remained with her as she served in the military and pursued her education.
At 17, Labrina enlisted in the United States Air Force, where she served as an intelligence analyst. She later earned degrees from Borough of Manhattan Community College and Rutgers University. Now, as a law student and mother, she is preparing for a career focused on juvenile justice and advocating for children and families.
In this episode of Counseller’s Corner, Dean Jeremy Counseller speaks with Labrina about the childhood experience that inspired her career and the lessons she learned during her military service. She reflects on finding her place at Baylor Law School and the community that has supported her throughout her legal education. Their conversation also explores her commitment to recognizing the people affected by legal decisions, her hopes for the future, and the role motherhood has played in her law school experience.
15 Oct 2026
From First Responder to Future Lawyer: Nafis Muhammad’s Commitment to Service
Nafis Muhammad, a first-year student at Baylor Law School, has always been drawn to work that protects others. His journey began as a teenager when he became an EMT, followed by his service as a firefighter and paramedic. Inspired by his mother, an emergency room nurse who always helped those in need, Nafis developed a deep appreciation for the various systems and institutions essential for maintaining safety and well-being. This passion led him from the fire department to the campaign trail, where he ran for city council in his hometown of Carson, California, at just 18 years old. Now, at Baylor Law School, Nafis continues to explore his interests, with a specific focus on securities enforcement and regulation. In this episode of Counseller’s Corner, Dean Jeremy Counseller interviews Nafis about his transition from first responder to law student. They discuss the lessons he has learned about performing under pressure in law school, as well as their shared interests in music, intramural football, life in Waco, and their mutual appreciation for the word puzzle game, Connections.
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Kaitlyn Charles
Julia Incerpi
Caroline Bizarro
Kenadie Wilde
Dylan Mayne
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