The Creative Odyssey Podcast explores creativity, work, and life through thoughtful conversations with creators, founders, artists, and thinkers.
Hosted by Emil Drud, the podcast is driven by a simple question:
How do people create meaningful things in a world full of uncertainty?
What emerges are stories, perspectives, and ideas for curious minds interested in creativity, entrepreneurship, culture, and the human experience.
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Cowards Don't Go to Heaven with Eugene Cheong | CO#54
In this conversation, Emil talks with Eugene Cheong about creativity as a lived practice, not just an abstract talent.
Eugene shares how his path into advertising, writing, and leadership was shaped by curiosity, reading, football, church, national service, and years of observing human nature. We also explore Eugene’s book Cowards Don't Go to Heaven, which reframes creativity through eight virtues and their opposing vices.
The conversation moves from personal development to agency leadership, visual storytelling, and how to build environments where creative people can actually thrive.
https://www.eugenecheong.com/book
14 Sept 2026
CO#53 | Learning Your Way Into Opportunity | Michael Vogel
“You don’t need permission to begin. You can learn your way into the role.”
In this episode, I speak with Michael Vogel about lifelong learning, curiosity, and building a life without following a predetermined path. Through his work with the Team Academy, we explore what happens when education gives people the freedom to act, experiment, fail, and learn their way forward - without waiting for permission.
This episode is for lifelong learners, unconventional thinkers, and anyone trying to create their own path rather than simply follow one.
Resources
Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking by Susan Cain
The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe
The Team Academy / Tiimiakatemia learning model from Finland
The concept of Ikigai
Michael Vogel on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpvogel/)
24 Aug 2026
CO#52 Augmenting Human Potential — AI, Agency & the Futures We Choose | Max Senges
Maybe the real question about AI isn't what it can do in the future, but what we are becoming with it?
In this episode, I speak with Prof. Dr. Max Senges about technology, philosophy, education and human agency. We explore AI as an extension of human capability rather than a replacement for it, why responsibility cannot be outsourced to machines, and how technology can help us learn, create and actively shape more desirable futures.
https://rulemapping.com/
https://www.nexteconomy.net/
https://maxsenges.com/
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